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Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #70 on: November 09, 2023, 10:10:14 AM »
Marylin Sitzman would've seen anyone in that position and would have been deafened by the blast.
There was no-one in that area other than the young black couple. So that's that dealt with.

As for JFK's head injury.
The morphs John Mytton posted show a truly massive wound to the top right of the skull extending from just behind the hairline at the front to the to the back of the skull.
It's quite difficult to comprehend how large this wound is.
What is really unusual about the injury, whether the shot is from the front or the back,  is that the top of JFK's skull blew off.
Dino Brugluoni, who got to closely examine the original Z-film describes skull fragments being blown into the air. And that is what we see in the Z-film.
At the moment of impact two powerful "jets" of, what I assume are skull and brain tissue can be clearly seen in the film. The main "jet" is picked out by the red arrow, the lesser "jet" by the yellow arrow:



As I say, the unusual part of this is that these "jets" of skull and brain tissue are blown out of the top of the skull.
In the frame below, the yellow line represents the line running through the top of his head. This is my own rough estimation and is made to give a general idea of the direction of the "Jets" (marked in red). There can be little doubt these powerful "jets" of skull/brain material are travelling in a straight line from the top part of JFK's head. There is nothing even remotely similar exiting the back of his head.



Does the Z-film show the same injury as the autopsy photos?
Yes, it does.
A close examination of the wound after the head shot reveals a massive crater in the top of JFK's head,in exactly the same place we have seen the skull fragments exiting from:
In the clip below focus on the top of JFK's head before the impact. Focus on the shape of it.
Immediately after the impact the large flap of scalp appears at the side of his head.
As his head moves forward a massive crater is apparent at the top of his head.



This is an extreme close up of JFK before the headshot. Note the shape of the top of his head:



This is an extreme close up of JFK after the headshot. Note the shape of the top of his head:



The difference is truly dramatic. There is a massive crater where the top of his head once was. This is to be expected as we have seen parts of his skull blown into the air from the top part of his head. It is also a match for the autopsy morph John posted.

The problem with Altfans [and it seems to be a thing with Tinfoil Nutters in general] is that they believe witness testimony over actual film footage of something, which I find difficult to grasp. It's the same with the Mauser bullsh*t and the Alyea footage.
Rather than trying to see if there's any way of reconciling these, apparently contradictory, aspects - film footage and witness testimony - it is preferable to accept some truly bizarre, unsupported "theory".
Many people describe a head wound towards the back of the head but the autopsy pictures and the Z-film show a massive wound to the top part of the skull.
In order to understand how these can be reconciled it is important to understand the exact nature of the wound to JFK's head.

Hi Dan, Did you notice JFK's hair puffs out in the back? Mary Moorman said the exact same thing his hair puffed out. Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael


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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #71 on: November 09, 2023, 10:21:51 AM »
Hi Dan, Did you notice JFK's hair puffs out in the back? Mary Moorman said the exact same thing his hair puffed out. Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael



Odd that you post the "altered" Zapruder film as evidence?  ::)

Anyway, the first Dealey Plaza eyewitnesses who were interviewed within hours all agree with the head wound as seen in the Zapruder film.



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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #72 on: November 09, 2023, 10:35:17 AM »
Hi Dan, Did you notice JFK's hair puffs out in the back? Mary Moorman said the exact same thing his hair puffed out. Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael



I have to assume that you agree with my analysis of the Z-film, that the wound to JFK's head is to the top part of his skull, that skull fragments are blown upwards and that this is the same wound as shown in the autopsy photographs.
I say this because you haven't dealt with a single issue I raised. And you're right not to deal with them because they show what a tenuous grasp you have on the evidence for this case.
Instead of dealing with these issues [because you know they will crush your little fantasy] you raise another issue.

Did you notice JFK's hair puffs out in the back?

The head shot causes an unbelievably large deformation of the skull.
The skull literally shatters into countless pieces. Some are blown upwards, some are still attached to the massive piece of scalp that is blown to the side of his head and those still inside the remaining scalp have lost their structural integrity.
It is possible that there is deformation shown at the back of the head [or puffing out] but it is very slight. Certainly when compared with the massive deformation of the top part of the skull. More importantly, no debris exits the back part of the head. Bruglioni studied the Z-film in close detail and he never mentions debris exiting the back of the head,

I'm glad you agree that it was the top part of JFK's skull that was blown up in the air in the Z-film and that this is the same wound we see in the autopsy pics  Thumb1:
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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #73 on: November 09, 2023, 10:38:49 AM »
Odd that you post the "altered" Zapruder film as evidence?  ::)

Anyway, the first Dealey Plaza eyewitnesses who were interviewed within hours all agree with the head wound as seen in the Zapruder film.



JohnM

Odd that you post the "altered" Zapruder film as evidence?  ::)

 :D :D
What a shock.

Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #74 on: November 09, 2023, 10:42:41 AM »
Odd that you post the "altered" Zapruder film as evidence?  ::)

Anyway, the first Dealey Plaza eyewitnesses who were interviewed within hours all agree with the head wound as seen in the Zapruder film.



JohnM

Hi John, They left a few of the light colored legitimate real undarkened out hairs! Remember Bobby Hargis said he was hit with the president's blood, water, skull and brain with the force of concrete! This put him into shock. He no longer did his duty. He parked his motorcycle and headed to the Grassy Knoll. Then further was in dereliction of duty and ended up in front of the TSBD's entrance helping out. Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #75 on: November 09, 2023, 10:52:40 AM »
Odd that you post the "altered" Zapruder film as evidence?  ::)

 :D :D
What a shock.

They're nothing if not predictable.

They quote the WC testimony even though they claim it's been falsified.
They quote the WC themselves even though they're part of it.
They present FBI analysis even though it's tainted.
They quote the Dallas Police even though they lie.
Etc etc.

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Re: Stop With The Limo Stop
« Reply #76 on: November 09, 2023, 11:13:42 AM »




Do these match or is their significant damage behind JFK's right ear that does not exist in the Z-film?
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