Roger Craig

[Jim Hawthorn]

The butt plate of C2766, as seen at the National Archives. Rust is visible, and what appears to be a minuscule crater, likely caused by corrosion.

It can't be a crater. The shadow reveals that it is/was a dome shape.

[Mitch Todd]

i just wanted to return to comments directed at me in this thread , where i said that there were photos at the least taken at different times that tragic friday and later . i said photos taken at later times and recreation photos , i said not one word about faking of any photo or film . it is truly quite extraordinary how a person such as my self can write PHOTOS TAKEN AT DIFFERENT TIMES THAT DAY and perhaps on different days there after and LN morph that into FAKED PHOTO AND FILM .let me show here what my original comment was speaking of . i will use an online article also to highlight what i was talking about . i should note of course it is not my article .

"Notice the far window in the two exhibits (above) and the Studebaker photo (right). Notice that it is completely black, showing absolutely no detail. Compare that with the other window, which clearly shows a daylight scene showing the crowd and traffic in front of the County Records Building.

Keep in mind that these photos were allegedly taken at approximately 1:00 PM on the afternoon of the assassination. How can you have possibly have a daylight scene in one window, while the other window shows darkness consistent with midnight rather than mid-day??? We should be able to see the north face of the light colored County Records Building through that window. I believe these photos were taken at a later time, and that they were altered to hide the fact they were taken during the night. The daylight scene we see through the near window was added to the photos to make it appear that they were taken in the afternoon.

The photo on the left shows the same area taken from the opposite direction. Notice the corner of the near window (white rectangle). It shows the same absolute blackness as the other photos. I include this to dispel any notion that the extreme darkness seen through the window was caused by a shadow on the north face of the Records building. The photo on the right was taken by a newsman on the afternoon of the assassination, and shows just how much sunlight filtered through those windows. "

now here are the photos in question

   


There are more indications that Dallas Police Department's sniper's nest photos were not taken the afternoon of the assassination. Notice the object on the window ledge in the photo top right (see circle). This appears in several of the photos taken by newsmen that afternoon after Day & Studebaker took their evidence photos. Closer examination of these photos reveal that the item is a hammer.



Lieutenant Day told the Warren Commission that they took several reconstruction photos on Monday, November 25th. Among the photos, were Commission Exhibits 733 and 734:

Although Day told the Commission that one photograph was taken Monday morning (CE 727). But these two photos were obviously not taken in the morning, for once again we see the black of night through the window. Here's another photo taken at that session:

 


NOTE THE DARKNESS OUTSIDE THE WINDOW ? , NOTE THE DIFFERENT POSITIONS OF THE BOXES AT THE WINDOW ? . so i said photos were taken at different times and days , i used the wording reconstruction photos . i was completely correct in saying this . AT NO POINT DID I EVER SAY PHOTOS AND FILM WERE FAKE .my thanks to the original author for the above segments of the article and the photos provided .

None of this addresses my point about the Alyea film. It was broadcast by WFAA midafternoon on the 22nd, and is shows a Carcano, no doubt about it.

As for the photos with apparent dark-window anomalies, this affect can be caused by bright flash and/or fill lighting during exposure. It can also be caused be contrast adjustment during development using magenta filters, which increase contrast in B&W film.

[Mitch Todd]

"It's "MADE ITALY" rather than "MADE IN ITALY." And these words are in tiny blued-metal-on-blued-metal letters. They aren't the exactly the easiest things to read, even in good light. I'm not sure why you think Weitzman would have been able to read them."




i appreciate the above photo is enlarged (my thanks again to the original author / content provider , i will provide a link ) but even so even with some glare from a light source the MADE ITALY is readable .

here is a link to the original content that the photo came from
http://www.freehomepage.com/jfkresearch/c2766.html

This is from CE 541. You can see the whole set here:

https://aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/pdf/WH17_CE_541.pdf

It's not uncommon to apply contrast enhancers to engraved metal to bring out detail. Talc, finely ground chalk, common white glue, and light colored tempera paint --among other agents-- are brushed into the depressions left by the engravings, then any covering the rest of the service is wiped off. This makes it much easier to read, interpret and photograph the engravings. In FE 541, the use of a white contrast agent is most clearly seen on the "TNI" proofmark at the bottom of page 239. What you think is easy-to-read text is the result of a bit of clever artifice, intended to make markings easier to read in a photograph.

[Mitch Todd]

     Both Roger Craig's story and the Alyea footage have been around a very long, long, time. Once again, the Old Guard JFK Assassination Research Community FAILED to definitely resolve the Craig mauser issue by simply asking Roger Craig.  I am also intrigued by the Roger Craig timeline when he is seen inside the train yard on the Darnell Film. His Clay Shaw testimony is far more detailed than the WC Sleep Walking Job they did. Did you know that in his Clay Shaw Testimony he detailed climbing the picket fence in order to enter the parking lot? And this was BEFORE he got to the train yard as filmed by Darnell. Craig had to of been 1 of the very 1st Law Enforcement officers to enter that parking lot behind the picket fence. What did he see, who did he see, did he smell gun smoke, etc ? According to Craig, he encountered a woman attempting to drive a car out of that parking lot. Craig's encounter with this woman had to of been only minutes after the Kill Shot. Again, the Old Guard JFK Assassination Research Community NOT pursuing this "encounter" while Craig was alive is another epic FAILURE inna long line of epic failures by this body of so called "researchers".   

Craig was asked in '68 by Warren Hinkle in the LA Free Press, though you simply refuse to believe it. He was also asked in the Shaw trial.

[Royell Storing]

Craig was asked in '68 by Warren Hinkle in the LA Free Press, though you simply refuse to believe it. He was also asked in the Shaw trial.

     For starters, I specifically referenced the JFK Assassination Old Guard Researcher Community. The Clay Shaw trial is not that body. Also, the Clay Shaw trial did NOT get into detail regarding Craig's encounter. The LA Free Press was an underground publication. They have NO Credibility whatever they might have thrown out onto the street.

[Fergus O'Brien]

None of this addresses my point about the Alyea film. It was broadcast by WFAA midafternoon on the 22nd, and is shows a Carcano, no doubt about it.

As for the photos with apparent dark-window anomalies, this affect can be caused by bright flash and/or fill lighting during exposure. It can also be caused be contrast adjustment during development using magenta filters, which increase contrast in B&W film.

and exposure caused the boxes to be in different positions and caused the hammer on the ledge to appear ? . some of these photos were not taken at the same time .

[Fergus O'Brien]

This is from CE 541. You can see the whole set here:

https://aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh17/pdf/WH17_CE_541.pdf

It's not uncommon to apply contrast enhancers to engraved metal to bring out detail. Talc, finely ground chalk, common white glue, and light colored tempera paint --among other agents-- are brushed into the depressions left by the engravings, then any covering the rest of the service is wiped off. This makes it much easier to read, interpret and photograph the engravings. In FE 541, the use of a white contrast agent is most clearly seen on the "TNI" proofmark at the bottom of page 239. What you think is easy-to-read text is the result of a bit of clever artifice, intended to make markings easier to read in a photograph.

what you have stated is q photographic aid if you will . that does not rule out that the print was so faint as to not be seen with the naked eye sufficient to be able to read it .