Yet Another Shooter??

[James Hackerott]

Yeah, I looked at a Murry photo similar to Allen's but it was too shadowed. I edited my post as video appears to be under an overcast sky. If I remember correctly it was Sunday before the sky became overcast.

[Royell Storing]

Here is an enhanced 18 frame stack from a film/video pan of the fence_shelter_gap taken probably Saturday the 23rd. No large mounds of dirt, let alone any piles large enough to raise an individual to the height seen in the Jim Towner#3 photo.

Edit. I notice there are not strong shadows in the video. Saturday was bright but possibly Sunday before the sky was overcast.
 

    We need to be very careful when time stamping ALL assassination images. The SS did a detailed video of Dealey Plaza, the TSBD, etc. shortly after the assassination. According to Max Holland on a video he posted in conjunction with "The Lost Bullet", this SS re-creation was done 5 DAYS AFTER the assassination. The flower arrangements sitting on the Knoll in the pic you posted are positioned very closely to the  SS images of the Knoll and the flowers on it then. I believe your timeline with respect to the pic you posted is incorrect. Also, the pic you posted shows little if any of the ground area (N) of the big tree that was roughly in line with The Bench. This area (N) of the big tree would be the same area that the guy/kid was shown in Towner 3. Your posted pic therefore provides nothing with respect to that guy/kid standing on something against/near the fence in Towner 3.       

[Royell Storing]

Great work yet again Hackers.
There is also this Allen pic from the day:



A close-up reveals a similar lack of dirt piles.

    Your image and the "close-up" Fail to detail the ground area from the large tree (N). This is where the action was unfolding including the guy/kid on Towner 3. I get the feeling that you have Not listened to the  6/6/1989 Sixth Floor Interview of Gordon Arnold. Until you hear his Sixth Floor interview, your research is incomplete resulting in a half baked opinion.

[Dan O'meara]

    Your image and the "close-up" Fail to detail the ground area from the large tree (N). This is where the action was unfolding including the guy/kid on Towner 3. I get the feeling that you have Not listened to the  6/6/1989 Sixth Floor Interview of Gordon Arnold. Until you hear his Sixth Floor interview, your research is incomplete resulting in a half baked opinion.

"Half baked opinion"?
You are proposing the man in the pic below is stood on a pile of dirt two feet high.
But the red arrows highlight the same bush in both pics and they demonstrate that, beyond any doubt, there are no such dirt piles and that Gordon is FoS.




The letter Gordon wrote to his wife shortly after the assassination is proof enough he was nowhere near Dealey Plaza at the time.
And don't forget the little discussion you ducked out of in the Umbrella Man thread. Looking forward to hearing some of your own half baked opinions.

[Royell Storing]

"Half baked opinion"?
You are proposing the man in the pic below is stood on a pile of dirt two feet high.
But the red arrows highlight the same bush in both pics and they demonstrate that, beyond any doubt, there are no such dirt piles and that Gordon is FoS.




The letter Gordon wrote to his wife shortly after the assassination is proof enough he was nowhere near Dealey Plaza at the time.
And don't forget the little discussion you ducked out of in the Umbrella Man thread. Looking forward to hearing some of your own half baked opinions.

    You're simply not familiar with that area inside Dealey Plaza. For starters, that's not a bush it's a tree back in the parking lot/train yard area. Regarding the dirt piles, I said there was something that guy/kid was standing atop. Could be a dirt pile, could be something else stacked up/leaning against the picket fence, something alongside/hugging the picket fence, etc. Maybe another bench, but something is giving that individual his high vantage point over the fence. Stop taking what an image is spoon feeding you and ask yourself serious introspective questions. I'm estimating that the guy/kid is roughly 20 feet from the very end of the picket fence. Why would he go to all the trouble of climbing that fence to see over it, when all he had to do was travel (N) another 20 feet to be around it and on the other side of it to give him the desired view? I believe this guy/kid was probably running up that cement walkway, took the cement fork that veered leftward directly toward the train yard, and then his eye/attention was probably attracted to something leaning against or something hugging the picket fence. Why would a guy choose to climb atop a fence when all he had to do was move forward another 10-15 steps, round-the-fence, and then be on the other side? Think things through instead of permitting yourself to be spoon fed these bread crumb snap shots that lead to incorrect conclusions. You'll be glad you did. I guarantee it! 

[James Hackerott]

    We need to be very careful when time stamping ALL assassination images. The SS did a detailed video of Dealey Plaza, the TSBD, etc. shortly after the assassination. According to Max Holland on a video he posted in conjunction with "The Lost Bullet", this SS re-creation was done 5 DAYS AFTER the assassination. The flower arrangements sitting on the Knoll in the pic you posted are positioned very closely to the  SS images of the Knoll and the flowers on it then. I believe your timeline with respect to the pic you posted is incorrect. Also, the pic you posted shows little if any of the ground area (N) of the big tree that was roughly in line with The Bench. This area (N) of the big tree would be the same area that the guy/kid was shown in Towner 3. Your posted pic therefore provides nothing with respect to that guy/kid standing on something against/near the fence in Towner 3.     

Edit 20231025
I realize now that the stacked 8 frame clip came from a snippet from the SS reconstruction film. I have December 5th for that date. 

[Zeon Mason]

Its certainly possible that a person could in a firing position on the top of the hood a car behind the pocket fence and had some foliage that allowed him some concealment, but then why would he jump over the fence to be in front of it, after he fired a shot?