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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2023, 08:12:04 AM »
  The feel I got from the Gordon Arnold/Canover Hunt interview was that Arnold recalled seeing Sarti previously, but Arnold could not with certainty place his Sarti sighting at Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63. This I believe gives credibility to all the other details that Arnold revealed during that interview.
  To my knowledge, nobody other than Arnold has ever claimed to be in that dirt area between the picket fence and the Flat Concrete Walkway. This makes Arnold's telling of his standing atop a dirt pile/elevated, and adding that dirt in general had been pushed around back there a revelation. None of the Line-Of-Sight (LOS), or measured angles toward the Kill Shot "X" on Elm St, have taken into account that there were various positions back there that were Elevated above ground level. With there being black shadows from the picket fence to about 4 feet out toward the flat cement walkway, along with possible elevated mounds of dirt, does present the possibility of a shooter on the (E) side of the picket fence vs the routinely accepted shooter on the (W) side of the picket fence/inside the parking lot. A possible shooter on the East side of the picket fence, shooting from an elevated position atop a dirt mound, throws ALL the previous LOS measurements/shot angles from the parking lot side of the fence into a cocked hat.   
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« Reply #15 on: October 18, 2023, 09:26:49 AM »
  The feel I got from the Gordon Arnold/Canover Hunt interview was that Arnold recalled seeing Sarti previously, but Arnold could not with certainty place his Sarti sighting at Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63. This I believe gives credibility to all the other details that Arnold revealed during that interview.
  To my knowledge, nobody other than Arnold has ever claimed to be in that dirt area between the picket fence and the Flat Concrete Walkway. This makes Arnold's telling of his standing atop a dirt pile/elevated, and adding that dirt in general had been pushed around back there a revelation. None of the Line-Of-Sight (LOS), or measured angles toward the Kill Shot "X" on Elm St, have taken into account that there were various positions back there that were Elevated above ground level. With there being black shadows from the picket fence to about 4 feet out toward the flat cement walkway, along with possible elevated mounds of dirt, does present the possibility of a shooter on the (E) side of the picket fence vs the routinely accepted shooter on the (W) side of the picket fence/inside the parking lot. A possible shooter on the East side of the picket fence, shooting from an elevated position atop a dirt mound, throws ALL the previous LOS measurements/shot angles from the parking lot side of the fence into a cocked hat.

Hi Royell, Thank you for your input my friend! To me, the spot you are talking about would be the spot where Lee Bowers saw a puff of smoke or a flash of light from his tower position! Thank you again! Sincerely yours, Michael

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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2023, 01:43:06 AM »
Did Gordon Arnold stop by the knoll and film some memorial decorations on 11-23-63?



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« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2023, 01:35:37 PM »
I just found a better picture of Badge Man. Please credit Denis Morissette! Sincerely yours, Michael


 Michael,

   I urge you to read each and every word of this excellent research regarding "Badge Man".  He simply did not exist.    https://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/badgeman_3.htm

Also...the "Black Dog Man" couldn't have been an assassin.  There was a black couple who were seated on a park bench situated directly behind the retaining wall.  It is a known fact that they were eating lunch because Marilyn Sitzman refers to them during her interview with Josiah Thompson in 1966.  Also, their lunch bag and part of the contents was photographed on the bench, as well as the couple being captured in the Jimmy Darnell fil, standing next to the bench after the assassination.  There's no way an assassin was shooting from behind that wallin plain view of Sitzman and Zapruder.
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« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2023, 05:45:44 AM »
Michael,

   I urge you to read each and every word of this excellent research regarding "Badge Man".  He simply did not exist.    https://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/badgeman_3.htm

Also...the "Black Dog Man" couldn't have been an assassin.  There was a black couple who were seated on a park bench situated directly behind the retaining wall.  It is a known fact that they were eating lunch because Marilyn Sitzman refers to them during her interview with Josiah Thompson in 1966.  Also, their lunch bag and part of the contents was photographed on the bench, as well as the couple being captured in the Jimmy Darnell fil, standing next to the bench after the assassination.  There's no way an assassin was shooting from behind that wallin plain view of Sitzman and Zapruder.

    In that same interview, Sitzman said she immediately went down the Knoll following the shooting and then back up it. She claimed she was questioned by Fed Agents at both the bottom and top of the knoll. There are NO IMAGES to support this claim or eyewitnesses either. Sitzman is also the ONLY EYEWITNESS that claims to have seen a Black Couple sitting on that bench immediately before and after the JFK Assassination. There are also no images to support that claim either. Yet, we got researchers claiming the Sitzman story of a Black Couple watching the Kill Shot while seated on that bench is legit, and then they turn around and run away from Sitzman claiming to have been questioned by Fed Agents there on the knoll. You "researchers" can Not have it both ways. 
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« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2023, 11:17:52 AM »
Sitzman said she immediately went down the Knoll following the shooting and then back up it. She claimed she was questioned by Fed Agents at both the bottom and top of the knoll. There are NO IMAGES to support this claim or eyewitnesses either.

 https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1925.0.html
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« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2023, 02:32:09 PM »