How the Landis bullet possibly ended up on top of the backseat of the limo

[Royell Storing]

Well, unlike you I wasn't there so I can't be sure. But these frames offer the possibility that a bullet may have dropped down into her left hand and she placed it just where Mr. Landis says he found a bullet. The particular fashion in which she lays her hand down right over the 'seam' area is certainly suggestive of that



In a sense, the sheer oddness of the place where Mr. Landis says he found a bullet may speak to the veracity of his story. If you're going to make up a story of finding a bullet in the car, you wouldn't say the bullet was there of all places. Seems so wildly unrealistic.

And yet here we have Zapruder showing us just how that improbable thing might easily have happened.

    We need to remember that CIA Image Expert Dino Brugioni examined the Zapruder Film the night after the assassination. Brugioni went over that film from start to finish and then prepared "Briefing Boards" to be used the following day. Decades later, Doug Horne showed Brugioni the Current Zapruder film and then asked Brugioni to compare the Z Film he had just watched to the Z Film he examined on 11/23/63. Brugioni made clear that 1 of the differences in the Current Zapruder film and the one he examined the night after the JFK Assassination was the Current Zapruder Film segment that displayed Jackie on the trunk of the Limo. Brugioni said the Current Z Film segment showing Jackie on the Limo trunk was shorter in length vs this same segment in the Zapruder Film that he examined on the night of 11/23/63. The shorter running time of the film segment displaying Jackie on the JFK Limo trunk could easily be the result of missing Z Film frames that also included the alleged bullet that Landis found.   

[Dan O'meara]

    We need to remember that CIA Image Expert Dino Brugioni examined the Zapruder Film the night after the assassination. Brugioni went over that film from start to finish and then prepared "Briefing Boards" to be used the following day. Decades later, Doug Horne showed Brugioni the Current Zapruder film and then asked Brugioni to compare the Z Film he had just watched to the Z Film he examined on 11/23/63. Brugioni made clear that 1 of the differences in the Current Zapruder film and the one he examined the night after the JFK Assassination was the Current Zapruder Film segment that displayed Jackie on the trunk of the Limo. Brugioni said the Current Z Film segment showing Jackie on the Limo trunk was shorter in length vs this same segment in the Zapruder Film that he examined on the night of 11/23/63. The shorter running time of the film segment displaying Jackie on the JFK Limo trunk could easily be the result of missing Z Film frames that also included the alleged bullet that Landis found.   

You are a fantasist.

[Royell Storing]

You are a fantasist.

    Let's refrain from the name calling and stick to FACTS. The opinion of a CIA Image Expert/Brugioni vs what is it you are proffering?

[Dan O'meara]

    Let's refrain from the name calling and stick to FACTS. The opinion of a CIA Image Expert/Brugioni vs what is it you are proffering?

I wasn't name calling.
Anyone who believes the Zapruder film was altered is a fantasist.
Against Brugioni's memory - Roland Zavada.
Zavada was one of the leaders of the team that invented Kodachrome II, the same film as Zapruder's.
Zavada, described as  "world's leading expert on 8mm Kodachrome II film" [https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/21/zapruder-film-analysis-still-disputed/3672031/], undertook a massively comprehensive examination of the Zapruder film and compiled a 150 pg report -https://archive.org/details/ZavadaReport/page/n21/mode/2up

He concluded that the Zapruder film was an "in camera original" and that any alleged alteration was unfeasible.
The Zavada Report ends any speculation about the Z-film being altered.

It is also possible to use your brain and a modern copy of the Z-film. Look at the gif below and explain to me where this alteration could've occurred. Jackie's movements are fluid and seamless and any alteration would have to take into account the arrival of Hill in the same clip:



If that's not good enough, here are the Zapruder and Nix films synchronised. Once you start claiming the Nix film has also been altered you have entered tinfoil territory:



The Zavada Report, the Nix/Zapruder films synchronised and a bit of common sense debunk any claims to alteration.

[Michael Welch]

I wasn't name calling.
Anyone who believes the Zapruder film was altered is a fantasist.
Against Brugioni's memory - Roland Zavada.
Zavada was one of the leaders of the team that invented Kodachrome II, the same film as Zapruder's.
Zavada, described as  "world's leading expert on 8mm Kodachrome II film" [https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/21/zapruder-film-analysis-still-disputed/3672031/], undertook a massively comprehensive examination of the Zapruder film and compiled a 150 pg report [https://archive.org/stream/ZavadaReport/Zavada+Report_djvu.txt]

He concluded that the Zapruder film was an "in camera original" and that any alleged alteration was unfeasible.
The Zavada Report ends any speculation about the Z-film being altered.

It is also possible to use your brain and a modern copy of the Z-film. Look at the gif below and explain to me where this alteration could've occurred. Jackie's movements are fluid and seamless and any alteration would have to take into account the arrival of Hill in the same clip:



If that's not good enough, here are the Zapruder and Nix films synchronised. Once you start claiming the Nix film has also been altered you have entered tinfoil territory:



The Zavada Report, the Nix/Zapruder films synchronised and a bit of common sense debunk any claims to alteration.

Hi Dan, Ironically, the great Gerda Dunckel did a gif of Clint Hill getting on the back of the limousine and the Zapruder film is missing a few frames. Both Mr. Zapruder and Mr. Nix felt that frames were missing from their films. Also we know that at least seven frames are missing from the Tina Towner film based on the great work done by Chris Davidson! Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

Here is what Abraham Zapruder said about his film when asked at the Clay Shaw Trial.22                    At this time we offer into evidence that

23                    which we previously marked for

24                    identification as S-37, the film

25                    testified to by Mr. Zapruder.

Page 86

1          MR. DYMOND:

2                      At this time we would like to traverse on

3                      the offer.

4          THE COURT:

5                      You may traverse.

6          BY MR. DYMOND:

7          Q            You say you were present when the copies of

8                      your film were made?

9          A            Yes, sir.

10        Q            Were you actually present in the room in which

11                    these copies were being made?

12        A            Yes, sir, I was in the processing room watching

13                    them actually process the film.

14        Q            Is the copy you have here today identical to

15                    the original or are there any plates

16                    missing out of this copy?

17        A            That would be hard for me to tell, sir.

18        THE COURT:

19                    I cannot hear the witness.  What is it?

20        THE WITNESS:

21                    That would be hard for me to say.  He

22                    asked me if there are any frames

23                    missing.

24        THE COURT:

25                    What is your answer?

Page 87

1          THE WITNESS:

2                      I couldn’t say.

3          BY MR. DYMOND:

4          Q            So you don’t know whether it is a complete copy

5                      of the film you took on the 22nd of
6                      November?


7          A            Not if there are one or two frames missing, I

8                      couldn’t tell you.

9          Q            Mr. Zapruder, when these copies were made, do

10                    I understand you ended up with an original

11                    and two copies of the film?

12        A            Yes, sir.

13        Q            You gave one copy to the Dallas Police

14                    Intelligence Section, is that correct?

15        A            Yes, sir.

16        Q            One copy to the FBI?

17        A            Correct.

18        Q            And one copy to Life Magazine?

19        A            Yes, sir.

20        Q            Where did you get this copy you have produced

21                    here in open court today, if you disposed of

22                    all the copies?

23        A            I got them from Mr. Oser’s office.

24        Q            In other words, this film has not been in your

25                    possession up until now, is that correct?

Page 88

1          A            No.  It was given to me in his office.

In this Orville Nix interview, around the 1:40 mark he starts talking about missing frames.

I believe this is Chris Davidson's work showing the seven miising frames in the Tina Towner film.

[Dan O'meara]

Hi Dan, Ironically, the great Gerda Dunckel did a gif of Clint Hill getting on the back of the limousine and the Zapruder film is missing a few frames. Both Mr. Zapruder and Mr. Nix felt that frames were missing from their films. Also we know that at least seven frames are missing from the Tina Towner film based on the great work done by Chris Davidson! Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael

Here is what Abraham Zapruder said about his film when asked at the Clay Shaw Trial.22                    At this time we offer into evidence that

23                    which we previously marked for

24                    identification as S-37, the film

25                    testified to by Mr. Zapruder.

Page 86

1          MR. DYMOND:

2                      At this time we would like to traverse on

3                      the offer.

4          THE COURT:

5                      You may traverse.

6          BY MR. DYMOND:

7          Q            You say you were present when the copies of

8                      your film were made?

9          A            Yes, sir.

10        Q            Were you actually present in the room in which

11                    these copies were being made?

12        A            Yes, sir, I was in the processing room watching

13                    them actually process the film.

14        Q            Is the copy you have here today identical to

15                    the original or are there any plates

16                    missing out of this copy?

17        A            That would be hard for me to tell, sir.

18        THE COURT:

19                    I cannot hear the witness.  What is it?

20        THE WITNESS:

21                    That would be hard for me to say.  He

22                    asked me if there are any frames

23                    missing.

24        THE COURT:

25                    What is your answer?

Page 87

1          THE WITNESS:

2                      I couldn’t say.

3          BY MR. DYMOND:

4          Q            So you don’t know whether it is a complete copy

5                      of the film you took on the 22nd of
6                      November?


7          A            Not if there are one or two frames missing, I

8                      couldn’t tell you.

9          Q            Mr. Zapruder, when these copies were made, do

10                    I understand you ended up with an original

11                    and two copies of the film?

12        A            Yes, sir.

13        Q            You gave one copy to the Dallas Police

14                    Intelligence Section, is that correct?

15        A            Yes, sir.

16        Q            One copy to the FBI?

17        A            Correct.

18        Q            And one copy to Life Magazine?

19        A            Yes, sir.

20        Q            Where did you get this copy you have produced

21                    here in open court today, if you disposed of

22                    all the copies?

23        A            I got them from Mr. Oser’s office.

24        Q            In other words, this film has not been in your

25                    possession up until now, is that correct?

Page 88

1          A            No.  It was given to me in his office.

In this Orville Nix interview, around the 1:40 mark he starts talking about missing frames.

I believe this is Chris Davidson's work showing the seven miising frames in the Tina Towner film.

Zavada examined the Zapruder original on four different occasions. He concluded it was complete, authentic and hadn't been tampered with in any way.
At no time does Zapruder hint that frames were missing.
It may be the case frames were missing from some of the many copies that were made but not the original.
The Zavada Report ends any speculation about the authenticity of the Z-film. There was no higher authority regarding Kodachrome II, the speculations of non-experts should be taken with a pinch of salt.



The synchronisation of these films demonstrates, beyond doubt, that the Z-film was not altered regarding how long Jackie was on the trunk of the limo as suggested by Royell.

[Michael Welch]

Zavada examined the Zapruder original on four different occasions. He concluded it was complete, authentic and hadn't been tampered with in any way.
At no time does Zapruder hint that frames were missing.
It may be the case frames were missing from some of the many copies that were made but not the original.
The Zavada Report ends any speculation about the authenticity of the Z-film. There was no higher authority regarding Kodachrome II, the speculations of non-experts should be taken with a pinch of salt.



The synchronisation of these films demonstrates, beyond doubt, that the Z-film was not altered regarding how long Jackie was on the trunk of the limo as suggested by Royell.

Hi Dan, Thank you for your input! Here are a couple more Gerda The Great gifs! Sincerely yours, Michael