Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2023, 04:18:15 AM »
“Everyone agreed”. LOL.

Offline Michael Walton

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2023, 12:00:52 PM »
From what I can see, the person in the film frames and the person behind the glass are two entirely different people. But the larger point is that we will never know who these blurry people are. Some say it looks like LHO; others say it isn't. I doubt we'll ever be able to nail it down because the TV station who owns the footage refuses to release any direct-from-film scans of the footage.

The film itself is 16mm and because of the distance the camera was from the subject, even then blow ups will most probably not even reveal who it is.

The only corroborating evidence is the Hosty note that says LHO "...went outside to watch the parade..." That's what LHO told Hosty based on his notes. There are no other photos or film that exists that captured LHO out there when the parade went by. It makes reasonable sense that the person up on the steps could be Oswald. He is, after all, surrounded by coworkers, who also congregated up on those steps to catch a glimpse of Kennedy going by.

Online Zeon Mason

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2023, 09:17:53 PM »
It’s highly unlikely imo that it’s a reflection of the woman outside because the face of the outside woman would have to be looking TOWARDS the glass partition.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2023, 06:54:50 PM »
Sanders said that she and Stanton were on the east side of the entryway. Frazier said Stanton was to his left. PM is not a white-haired, 300 pound woman. Doyle will jump through all kinds of absurd hoops to keep his pet theory alive, including surmising that Stanton had dyed her hair or worn a wig.
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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2023, 05:20:10 PM »
There is no evidence that Stanton moved from her position on the east side of the entrance. And Lovelady never said that Stanton was in the west corner. There’s also no evidence that any “tiny face” between Lovelady and Shelley is Sanders. Nor has Chris Davidson ever “brought out Stanton’s face”. Nor did Frazier ever place Stanton in the prayerman spot. Those are Doyle fabrications. There is no evidence that either prayerman or Stanton was exactly 5’4”. And shade does not make white hair dark.

And nobody has proven who a blur in the Owens film is or anything about its “hair”. And even if you could, it would tell you nothing about prayerman anyway.

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2023, 06:46:51 PM »
- you have no basis for your claim that Stanton was precisely 5’4”. None.

- there is no “obese mitt-like hand”, except in your imagination.

 - Davidson’s “face” looks nothing like Stanton. Even Davidson says so.

- Lovelady never said that Stanton was at the far right. That’s a flat-out lie.

- Frazier never said that Stanton “pivoted”, nor do two different images prove any pivot anyway. Nor can you prove that Calvery was even there at the time, much less was saying anything at that moment.

- Frazier never said anything about staring at Stanton for the longest time, nor does Wiegman or Darnell show Frazier and Prayerman looking at each other anyway.

- we don’t “know” that Stanton was on the top platform, or even that prayerman is.

- we don’t know that Darnell’s equipment made white hair “look dark”. Nor does that even make sense. If it made white hair look dark, then it would make Caucasian skin even darker.

- we don’t know the Owens blur is Stanton or that prayerman is wearing a dress or holding a purse.

This is all made-up crap.
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Online Zeon Mason

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2023, 12:14:53 AM »
Seems unlikely imo, that if PM was a woman looking in her purse she would need to raise it to mouth level.