Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #189 on: September 23, 2023, 08:19:28 PM »
If Mr. Shelley is wearing his suit jacket, then we'd expect his physique to look more like that of this guy walking west from the "corner of the park" with a cigarette in his mouth:



SO.................... could this actually be Mr. Shelley?

Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #190 on: September 24, 2023, 12:25:53 AM »
Okay, I think I have the four South-Western Publishing girls to the left of John Templin on November 22, 1963, on Elm Street figured out. In Gloria Calvery's former spot we have Karan Hicks. She is the tall lady furthest to the left in the office girls picture. She was unidentified by Karen Westbrook and correctly identified by Pat Speer. She is definitely not Carolyn Arnold. To the left of Karan Hicks we have Carol Reed. To the left of Carol Reed we have Karen Westbrook. To the left of Karen Westbrook we have Gloria Calvery.  Sincerely yours, Michael

Ignore the red arrow.



Ignore the identifications, just find John Templin and look to his left.





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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #191 on: September 24, 2023, 04:01:49 AM »
Okay, I think I have the four South-Western Publishing girls to the left of John Templin on November 22, 1963, on Elm Street figured out.

Based on what?

Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #192 on: September 24, 2023, 05:06:54 AM »
Based on what?

Hi John, Calvery, Hicks, Reed, and Westbrook are all saying they were a four girl unit out on Elm Street.

In this picture, you can see the girl in Gloria Calvery's former position [standing next to John Templin] has brunette hair parted down the middle; her hair is longer than Gloria's and she is taller and not wearing glasses. The girl to her left cannot be seen. Then the third girl has brunette hair with no bangs just like Karen Westbrook. The girl to her left cannot be seen from the front. If you go with Pat Speer's identification of the taller girl in the far left of the office girls' picture you have Karan Hicks; then you have Carol Reed based on her being the smallest of the four; then you have Karen Westbrook based on her hairstyle; and lastly you have Gloria Calvery based on her having the thickest calves and by process of elimination. Thank you for your welcomed input! Sincerely yours, Michael







Here is a picture of Karen Westbrook for comparison to lady number 3.


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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #193 on: September 24, 2023, 11:25:38 AM »
Looks like Mr. O'Meara thought he had something here but didn't. Oh well

Don't worry Alan, I hadn't forgotten you. On the road at the moment so I post when I can.

Baker pulls up his bike because he thinks there's shots coming from the TSBD building.
He apparently wants to get in the building and go up to the top floor (something Truly psychically detects).
If this is indeed his intention the Darnell clip seems to show Baker 'overshooting' his approach to the front steps.
The reason for this is obvious if you'd actually bothered to focus on Baker in the Darnell clip [maybe you've seen it already but are being 'shy'].



Still not seeing it?

Baker is looking up the Elm Street extension as he runs towards the steps.
He's not looking where he's running.
That's why he overshoots his approach to the steps and that's how we know his attention isn't on the woman who you believe is trying to point out a banner made out of a parachute and two curtain rods saying "Viva Cuba!" and which could be seen from space.
It comes incorporated with a cloaking device because, not only does nobody on the steps see such a thing, it's not picked up in the Towner film!




Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #194 on: September 24, 2023, 11:50:53 AM »

Hi Dan, I have not made anything up! Carolyn Arnold has blonde hair...She was wearing a red dress.


 :D :D :D
You are priceless.
Beyond irony.

Hi Dan, Also the real Carolyn Arnold had her baby in December. Your Carolyn Arnold is still pregnant.

In Willis 5, in between the two Secret Service agents, we have the real Gloria Calvery dressed in blue with a white shirt! Thank you for everything! Sincerely yours, Michael







Ignore the arrow and please notice that girl in position number four from John Templin's left is wearing blue!

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #195 on: September 24, 2023, 11:52:29 AM »
Baker is looking up the Elm Street extension as he runs towards the steps.

Nope! He takes a quick look down the extension, and then resumes looking ahead-----without changing his path

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He's not looking where he's running.
That's why he overshoots his approach to the steps

That's it, Mr. O'Meara? That's really all you've got? 'Baker was such a moron he didn't pay attention to where the front entrance was'

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