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Who do you believe?
Steve Thomas:
--- Quote from: Wesley Johnson on March 07, 2018, 05:37:42 PM ---Who do you believe?
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Everybody.
Steve Thomas
Wesley Johnson:
--- Quote from: Rob Caprio on March 08, 2018, 03:26:25 AM ---Can you list any physical or ballistic evidence that points to LHO?
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Typical "buff" response. All you guys ever do is answer a question by asking a question.
Wesley Johnson:
--- Quote from: John Iacoletti on March 07, 2018, 11:51:11 PM ---I already told you in the "Oswald probably did it" thread who the 4 people were who said they saw a gunman in a window. Hint: Worrell was not one of them. But when the topic of Mac Wallace came up, you asked what witnesses said they saw Mac Wallace. So it's fair to ask you then what witnesses said they saw Lee Oswald.
It's just Brennan then, right? And that was some time later after not identifying him in the lineup, right? Do you consider his change of heart to be reliable? I don't. Do you think that the details that Brennan described in great detail both in his testimony and in his book were things that he actually could or did see? I don't. For example, how did he see a gunman in firing position for the head shot from where he was sitting and see enough of him to estimate his height, weight, and clothing? How did he see a gunman in firing position for the head shot from the belt up? How did he see 70-85% of the gun and not see a scope (if it was C2766)?
The people who claimed to have seen two men:
- Arnold Rowland
- Carolyn Walther
- Ruby Henderson
- Norman Similas
- Johnny Powell
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Fair enough John. Did Rowland, Walther, Henderson, Similas, or Powell see this second man shooting out of a window at the president?
Wesley Johnson:
--- Quote from: Rob Caprio on March 08, 2018, 09:34:27 PM ---Let's remove them from the equation. What evidence do you have to place LHO at the SE sixth floor window at the time of the assassination?
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No let's not. The question is valid because you CT's are always quoting Arnold about Lee being in the second floor lunchroom and Oswald as saying he was on the first floor. So, again, who do you believe? Arnold or Oswald?
Martin Weidmann:
--- Quote from: Wesley Johnson on March 08, 2018, 09:44:41 PM ---
No let's not. The question is valid because you CT's are always quoting Arnold about Lee being in the second floor lunchroom and Oswald as saying he was on the first floor. So, again, who do you believe? Arnold or Oswald?
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Your question would possibly be valid if we had a full first hand verbatim account about what Oswald and Arnold really said. Context matters and since we only have scant second hand information to deal with, there is nothing valid about your question.
Both Oswald and Arnold could well both be correct, for one very simple reason; we know that Oswald, at some point in time, was in the 2nd floor lunchroom because Truly and Baker saw him there. However, his being there 90 seconds post shots does not preclude him being on the 1st floor earlier, to see Jarman and Norman enter the TSBD at the back, near the domino room.
So, ask questions, by all means, but provide context to them before you do.
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