Who do you believe?

[Tim Nickerson]

Euins to the WC.

"Mr. SPECTER. Where were you when you heard what you described as the fourth shot?
Mr. EUINS. The first shot I was standing here.[Shot 1]
Mr. SPECTER. Now you are referring to 366. Put an "L" on 366 where you were standing at the first shot.
Mr. EUINS. Right here.
(Witness marking.)
Mr. EUINS. And then as I looked up there, you know, he fired another shot,[shot 2] you know, as I was looking. So I got behind this fountain thing right in there, at this point B.
Mr. SPECTER. At point B, on 365?
Mr. EUINS. I got behind there. And then I watched, he did fire again. [shot 3]Then he started looking down towards my way, and then he fired again.[shot 4]
Mr. SPECTER. The question I have for you now is where were you when he fired on that fourth time.
Mr. EUINS. I was still behind point B.
Mr. SPECTER. You were still at point B when he fired the fourth time?
Mr. EUINS. Yes, sir.Then he pulled the gun back in the window.

Ray, when I posted that, I was working at moving a bunch of spam off of the first page of the General Discussion area. I never took the time to review Euins' testimony but I did recall this:

Mr. EUINS. After he shot the first two times, I was just standing back here. And then after he shot again, he pulled the gun back in the window. And then all the police ran back over here in the track vicinity.

[Walt Cakebread]

Ray, when I posted that, I was working at moving a bunch of spam off of the first page of the General Discussion area. I never took the time to review Euins' testimony but I did recall this:

Mr. EUINS. After he shot the first two times, I was just standing back here. And then after he shot again, he pulled the gun back in the window. And then all the police ran back over here in the track vicinity.

Mr. SPECTER. You were still at point B when he fired the fourth time?
Mr. EUINS. Yes, sir.Then he pulled the gun back in the window.

I believe that Euins didn't identify the object as "a gun" in his report to the police on 11/22/63.   Didn't he say he saw a "pipe like thing" sticking out of a window?

[John Iacoletti]

[John Iacoletti]

[John Iacoletti]

[Walt Cakebread]

Thanks for posting the information.....

So Amos Euins saw the gun as it was being fired....and he said he thought it was an automatic because of the rapidity of the shots...

Euins was probably right .....  He said he saw the rifle fire twice and he thought it was an automatic....If the rifle had been a bolt action Euins should have noticed the man operating the bolt.   

[John Iacoletti]

No, somebody was actually spamming the site with ads for sunglasses or whatever.