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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #84 on: July 05, 2023, 01:10:03 PM »
Hi Jon, I still stand by my observation and I didn't even mention Oswald's failed attempt to get through to Cuba by way of Mexico but thanks for the additional insight and I concede that not every issue is black and white and the shade of grey that you mentioned is a worthwhile contribution.

Btw do you have any examples where Oswald tried to befriend any Black or Latino employees?
and I thought that the Domino room which I assume you were talking about was generally for the warehouse staff and the upper 2nd floor lunchroom which was occasionally frequented by some warehouse staff but was primarily for the office staff?

JohnM

I don't know of any examples where LHO tried to befriend any non-White employees at TSBD.

But we can conclude based on his own writings on the issue of segregation that he strongly opposed it. The quote below is from a speech Oswald wrote in 1963:

"as I look at this audience, there is a sea of white faces before me where are the negro’s amongst you (are they hiding under the table) surly if we are for democracy, let our fellow negro citizen’s into this hall. Make no mistake, I am segregationist tendencies can be unleared. I was born in New Orleans, and I know.

In russia I saw on several occiasions that in international meeting the greatest glory in the sport field was brought to us by negroes. Though they take the gold metals from their Russian competitors those negroes know that when they return to their own homeland they will have to face blind hatred and discrimonation. The Soviet Union is made up of scores of naturiclists asians and Eurpr–asian’s armenian and Jews whites and dark skinned people’s yet they can teach us a lesson in brotherhood among people’s with different customs and origins."


http://22november1963.org.uk/lee-oswald-speech-in-alabama


Beyond that, what we know about his views of segregation in the South comes primarily from second-hand accounts of him crediting JFK for his Civil Rights policies and George DeMorenschildt's description of Oswald's views on domestic politics.

Given Gen. Walker's infamy for his role in the 1962 riot at Ole Miss, it's very plausible that LHO disliked him for his support for segregation more than his anti-communism:

"In 1961, President John F. Kennedy officially admonished Walker for trying to indoctrinate his troops with right-wing literature. Walker resigned in protest, resurfacing the following year as one of the leaders of an armed mob trying to prevent black student James Meredith from entering the University of Mississippi. The mob wounded 160 federal marshals and killed two people. Attorney General Robert Kennedy charged Walker with seditious conspiracy, insurrection and rebellion, and put him in jail for five days before finally sending him for psychiatric evaluation."


https://www.ualrpublicradio.org/2017-10-05/maj-gen-edwin-walker-and-james-meredith
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #85 on: July 05, 2023, 04:49:09 PM »
Where did I say "precise date"?

But I can see how you misinterpreted my loosely structured statement.

Then your “loosely structured statement” is meaningless, given that you cannot determine whether the photo was taken close to the Walker shooting or not.

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At the end of the day, whoever was planning to use the Neeley street background as a template for the "fake" backyard photos had to have a plan in place many months in advance.

Who claimed that anybody planned to use the Neeley street background as a template for fake backyard photos?

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #86 on: July 05, 2023, 04:51:02 PM »
If you can't answer my question just say so.

If nobody knows how C2766 got in the TSBD, does that somehow prove that Oswald brought it there? Or do you need some actual evidence to make that claim?

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #87 on: July 05, 2023, 04:58:43 PM »
The question is an invalid one and requires no answer until you show conclusively that C2766 was actually sent to Oswald's PO box.

“Mytton” loves loaded questions.

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« Reply #88 on: July 05, 2023, 05:01:01 PM »
Your statement was that there was no evidence. You obviously don't find the evidence persuasive. But that is not the test of whether such evidence exists.

There is abundant evidence from which one could conclude that c2766 was Oswald's gun, that he brought it to work that day, that his conduct after the assassination shows consciousness of guilt and an attempt to avoid capture and that the Walker attempt using the same gun has elements of similar fact to the JFK assassination. From this, and all the other circumstances one can easily infer that Oswald was the assassin. You are not convinced by the evidence and that's fine. But that does not make the evidence go away. It is all still there.

Conclusions and inferences are not evidence. Which is why we examine the actual evidence instead.

Online John Mytton

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #89 on: July 05, 2023, 10:27:44 PM »
Who claimed that anybody planned to use the Neeley street background as a template for fake backyard photos?

Good question. Marina didn't have a clue how that camera worked, which leaves open the possibility that somebody else used that camera to make the incriminating pictures and Marina did in fact only make one BY photo (as she said she did and now lost to history) with a different camera.

Is that speculation? Sure it is, but it would fit the known facts.

JohnM

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #90 on: July 05, 2023, 10:53:58 PM »
Oswald confessed to the Walker shooting.  It borders on the incredible that anyone would still dispute his involvement.  And there would be absolutely no need for any conspirator to link Oswald to another assassination attempt to frame him for the JFK assassination.  Particularly after Oswald was already dead and his guilt in the JFK assassination was accepted by law enforcement.  Unreal.  Imagine Oswald's reaction to the CTers who are trying to rob him of the only accomplishments of his pathetic life.