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Offline John Mytton

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2023, 12:04:42 AM »
Although it doesn’t prove anything about the Kennedy assassination

Enough said   Thumb1:

Vincent Bugliosi doesn't mention Lee Harvey Oswald's assassination attempt of Major General Edwin Walker in his 53 pieces of evidence against Lee Harvey Oswald but in Vincent Bugliosi's Reclaiming History's very important chapter on Motive, the Major General Edwin Walker murder attempt gets star billing.

Here is someone who, as I point out in the “Motive” section of this book, not only had a propensity for violence (his attempted murder of Major General Edwin Walker seven months before the assassination, his threat to blow up the FBI building around two weeks before November 22,1963), but also was emotionally and psychologically unhinged; was a bitter, frustrated, and beaten-down loser who felt alienated from society and couldn’t get along with anyone, including his wife; irrationally viewed himself in a historical light, having visions of grandeur and of changing the world; was one whose political ideology consumed his daily life, causing him to keep time to his own drummer in a lonely obsession with Marxism and Castro’s Cuba; and hated his country and its representatives to such an extent that he defected to one of the most undesirable places on earth. If someone with not just one but all of these characteristics is not the most likely candidate to be a presidential assassin, then who would be?

Another important factor the Warren Commission and HSCA cited as probably contributing to Oswald’s pulling the trigger was this: he clearly had, as the Warren Commission put it, a “capacity for violence.”40 Perhaps nearly all of us are capable of killing a fellow human being (e.g., in self-defense), but I have never believed that we are all capable of murder. This is why the percentage of murderers among us is an infinitesimal fraction of 1 percent. Oswald fell into this exclusive, as it were, class of humans. His attempt, just seven months earlier, to kill Major General Edwin A. Walker clearly showed his propensity for murder, at least where his target was political.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2023, 12:06:19 AM »
Admittedly I'm an amateur at at this (I'm going to assume everyone reading this is one too; but maybe not) but if I'm going to frame Oswald for shooting Walker and plant a note pointing to his act I'm going to put IN THE NOTE that he went to shoot Walker. Why manufacture a fake note and not explicitly include that element in the phony document?

So if it wasn’t fake or planted, then the undated note that doesn’t mention Walker or shooting must therefore be about shooting Walker?

Really?

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2023, 12:10:07 AM »
Vincent Bugliosi doesn't mention Lee Harvey Oswald's assassination attempt of General Walker in his 53 pieces of evidence against Oswald but in Bugliosi's Reclaiming History's very important chapter on Motive, the Walker murder attempt gets star billing.

Instead of just spewing Bugliosi like verses of scripture, why don’t you tell us how Vince’s speculation is any more relevant than anyone else’s speculation?

Offline John Mytton

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2023, 12:11:38 AM »
Admittedly I'm an amateur at at this (I'm going to assume everyone reading this is one too; but maybe not) but if I'm going to frame Oswald for shooting Walker and plant a note pointing to his act I'm going to put IN THE NOTE that he went to shoot Walker. Why manufacture a fake note and not explicitly include that element in the phony document?

The usual suspects will not start their hand waving and diversions from the point.

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but if I'm going to frame Oswald for shooting Walker and plant a note pointing to his act I'm going to put IN THE NOTE that he went to shoot Walker. Why manufacture a fake note and not explicitly include that element in the phony document?

BRAVO, Excellent point!!!

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2023, 07:02:29 PM »
We're supposed to be believe that the same guy who:

- brought a long paper bag to work
- successfully hit the President who was sitting in a moving car from a distance
- left his rifle at the crime scene

Also:
- traveled miles to Edwin Walker's home with a rifle without being seen by any witnesses
- shot at Walker but missed
- brought his rifle back home (traveled a few miles each way) without being seen by any witnesses


Help me make sense of the inconsistency.  :-\

LHO very well MAY have attempted to kill Edwin Walker but the evidence implicating him in that crime is far from a slam dunk. In fact, there's really no evidence that directly connects Oswald to the Walker shooting.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2023, 07:03:14 PM by Jon Banks »

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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2023, 11:00:20 PM »
We're supposed to be believe that the same guy who:

- brought a long paper bag to work
- successfully hit the President who was sitting in a moving car from a distance
- left his rifle at the crime scene

Also:
- traveled miles to Edwin Walker's home with a rifle without being seen by any witnesses
- shot at Walker but missed
- brought his rifle back home (traveled a few miles each way) without being seen by any witnesses


Help me make sense of the inconsistency.  :-\

LHO very well MAY have attempted to kill Edwin Walker but the evidence implicating him in that crime is far from a slam dunk. In fact, there's really no evidence that directly connects Oswald to the Walker shooting.

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Help me make sense of the inconsistency.  :-\

Sure. But there's more commonalities than you think.

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- brought a long paper bag to work
- traveled miles to Edwin Walker's home with a rifle without being seen by any witnesses

He wasn't seen with a rifle at both events.

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- successfully hit the President who was sitting in a moving car from a distance
- shot at Walker but missed

At both locations Oswald's first shot missed.

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- left his rifle at the crime scene
- brought his rifle back home (traveled a few miles each way) without being seen by any witnesses

Do you have proof that Oswald took his rifle home from the Walker residence?
Marina who is the only witness we have, gave the superfluous information that Oswald did leave his rifle near to the Walker residence.

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In fact, there's really no evidence that directly connects Oswald to the Walker shooting.

Amongst Oswald's possessions were multiple photos taken of Walkers house which were taken a month before the assassination attempt and were taken with the same camera that took Oswald's Neely street backyard photos.
The "Walker note" gave details to Marina on what to do after Oswald committed a deed that could lead to his imprisonment or death. Also the Neely street March rent was paid on the 2nd which is what was written in the note. The April rent was paid on the 2nd or 3rd.



An examination of certain construction work appearing in the background of this photograph revealed that the picture was taken between March 8 and 12, 1963, and most probably on either March 9 or March 10.
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-4.html





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Re: The Walker Case
« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2023, 11:15:43 PM »
Sure. But there's more commonalities than you think.

He wasn't seen with a rifle at both events.

At both locations Oswald's first shot missed.

Do you have proof that Oswald took his rifle home from the Walker residence?
Marina who is the only witness we have, gave the superfluous information that Oswald did leave his rifle near to the Walker residence.

Amongst Oswald's possessions were multiple photos taken of Walkers house which were taken a month before the assassination attempt and were taken with the same camera that took Oswald's Neely street backyard photos.
The "Walker note" gave details to Marina on what to do after Oswald committed a deed that could lead to his imprisonment or death. Also the Neely street March rent was paid on the 2nd which is what was written in the note. The April rent was paid on the 2nd or 3rd.



An examination of certain construction work appearing in the background of this photograph revealed that the picture was taken between March 8 and 12, 1963, and most probably on either March 9 or March 10.
https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/chapter-4.html





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He wasn't seen with a rifle at both events.

So, you agree that there is no evidence that puts C2766 in Oswald's hands at 12:30 on 11/22/63....  Thumb1:

Amongst Oswald's possessions were multiple photos taken of Walkers house which were taken a month before the assassination attempt 

More "evidence" from Ruth Paine's garage..... the gift that keeps on giving

and were taken with the same camera that took Oswald's Neely street backyard photos.

You mean the camera that was completely missed during other searches and then found in Ruth Paine's garage, by Irving Police Detective John McCabe, on February 19, 1964?

Another example of evidence suddenly turning up when it is needed, much like the palmprint on Lt Day's evidence card....