"It's quite irritating to have to post the same thing again but here goes.
You posted the following:" dan o meara
its not much either being told i made stuff up .
"oswald emerges from his room and leaves . she watches tv for a spell longer . then apparently was curious and got up and went to her window and sees oswald still outside by the bus stop" fergus obrien
"When you post that Roberts "got up" you are implying she was sat down watching TV.
Oswald leaves the house - Roberts is sat down watching TV "for a spell longer"
She "apparently was curious" so she "got up" and "went to her window".
She looks out the window and sees Oswald "by the bus stop".
This scenario is not supported by Roberts' testimony." dan o meara
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, it was after President Kennedy had been shot and I had
a friend that said, “Roberts, President Kennedy has been shot,” and I said,
“Oh, no.” She said, “Turn on your television,” and I said “What are you trying
to do, pull my leg?” And she said, “Well, go turn it on.” I went and turned
it on and I was trying to clear it upI could hear them talking but I couldn’t
get the picture and he come in and I just looked up and I said, “Oh, you are
in a hurry.” He never said a thing, not nothing. He went on to his room and
stayed about 3 or 4 minutes.
Mr. BALL. What color was his shirt? Do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don’t remember. I didn’t pay that much attention for I was
interested in the television trying to get it fixed.
so what are you saying here ? you dispute any notion she was sitting ? . above i posted two relevant segments of her testimony re her tv . nowhere there does she say she stood the whole time fixing her tv and also while watching . but i will grant you she does not say she sat either while fixing or watching her tv . but most normal people do sit while watching tv . so how about this , on this matter let us agree whether she sat or stood that she worked on her tv and watched her tv over the period of time before oswald arrived , while he was there and after he left . and i am willing to stipulate if you are that she neither said she sat or stood while doing this . but your argument in essence appears to be that if a person didnt specifically say they sat or they stood that they did neither , i find that a bit silly . but no matter what you assert , whether sat down or stood up she was working on and watching her tv set while oswald left , and a short time later she stopped and then went to her window and looked out and saw oswald still standing there.i am also considering she was an elderly lady who was not in the best of health .
"She was still "trying to find out about President Kennedy" when Oswald left the house.
After a "moment" she went to the window and looked out.
No sitting down watching TV for a spell longer. " dean omeara
see above reply .
"Why is such a seemingly trivial important?
Because the timeline we're dealing with is so tight and every minute counts.
When Roberts says a "moment" she could mean 2 minutes or 3 minutes, but she could also mean 20 seconds." dean omeara
true , she said a moment and i quoted her saying exactly that as i recall . i know what some people consider a moment , and its anything in line with the numbers you mentioned just above . i have not tried to say it was this long or that long because its an unknown . but what ever it was we have to add that to the time he was in his room , and the time he was at the bus stop .we simply cannot put an exact time on that .just as we cant know sadly how long more he was outside at the bus stop after roberts decided to stop looking .
"You're looking at this the wrong way.
All I'm saying is that claims it had to be 1pm or later when Oswald entered the rooming house are very questionable.
Roberts is clearly guessing at the time when Oswald came in, what she makes clear is that the news about Kennedy has come on the TV by the time Oswald enters the house.
As demonstrated, the bulletin Roberts almost certainly sees is the one beginning around 12:48pm [she is already watching "As The World Turns" when it comes on].
12:48pm marks the earliest possible time Oswald could have come in and that's all. I'm not saying Oswald entered the rooming house at that time.
What I am definitely saying is, just because news of Kennedy's shooting was on the TV doesn't automatically mean it was 1pm or later." dean omeara
on the contrary as i have said i am trying to take in to consideration as much information as is possible . there is zero proof that oswald walked out the front door at 12.33 ZERO . this nonsense that reporters (the names elude me now sorry ) unknowingly spoke to oswald who directed them to a phone is worthless . even the reporters didnt say they say oswald , they were told they may have .cops were out side the door , tv and private cameras recording , as were quite a few of his fellow depository workers , including his pal wes frazier .plus one howard brennan who identified jarmin / norman and williams immediately to cops . NOT A ONE OF THESE SAW OSWALD WALK OUT THE FRONT DOOR at any time . its more likely then that he left via the rear door .all be it we cant prove that either .but it is the more logical in my opinion . that leaves us with what time he left ? , that is a bit of an unknown . but if he did indeed get on the bus , then we can work out how long roughly it took to walk to the bus stop , if for example we can assume he entered the bus at 12.40 then we can subtract the time it takes to walk the distance from the TSBD to the bus from 12.40 .then we have a rough time line , not precise but if you will a good estimate .if that says that he left at about 12.33 so be it .in fact wes frazier all be it belatedly told gary mack that he saw oswald having left via the rear door between 5 and 10 minutes after the shots and wearing a jacket .
you are assuming that she had to have been watching the 12.48 bulletin , or should i say listening to it as it was audio not video .you could be right . but as i have proven that bulletin went on right up 1pm . but the commission (if they were interested in the truth ) should have clarified this with her .
