Who Killed J.D. Tippit?

[Martin Weidmann]

Did Tippit have some type of citation book?  It seems like police officers would.  And it makes sense to be looking through it on the chance that Tippit might have been writing a citation to the person who ended up shooting him.  Thus providing the name of that individual.  What makes no sense is that the DPD would suppress Oswald's wallet if it had been left at the crime scene.  Whether by Oswald himself or someone trying to link him to the crime.  If, as CTers argue, the DPD was involved in framing Oswald for the JFK and Tippit murders, what better evidence than the presence of his wallet at the crime scene could there be?  Why would they suppress that wallet is inexplicable in the CTer narrative.  The only explanation that I have ever seen articulated is that because Oswald had his real wallet on him when arrested, the DPD had to suppress this fake one.  That explanation is laughable, however, because whoever planted the fake wallet would surely have known that Oswald was likely to have his real wallet on him when arrested or killed.  And, if the conspirators controlled the evidence, they would just suppress the real wallet and enter the fake wallet that frames Oswald into evidence instead of the reverse.

What makes no sense is that the DPD would suppress Oswald's wallet if it had been left at the crime scene.

What makes you think they suppressed that wallet?

If, as CTers argue, the DPD was involved in framing Oswald for the JFK and Tippit murders, what better evidence than the presence of his wallet at the crime scene could there be?

Indeed. I agree.

The only explanation that I have ever seen articulated is that because Oswald had his real wallet on him when arrested, the DPD had to suppress this fake one.

And there you have surpassed yourself by providing a very plausible answer, except it remains to be seem which of the two wallets was the one that disappeared.

That explanation is laughable, however, because whoever planted the fake wallet would surely have known that Oswald was likely to have his real wallet on him when arrested or killed.  And, if the conspirators controlled the evidence, they would just suppress the real wallet and enter the fake wallet that frames Oswald into evidence instead of the reverse.

Wow... you are beginning to understand.

Now, let's apply some factual information to see where we get. Paul Bentley was the officer who took Oswald's wallet from him in the car while en route to DPD HQ. The next day he was interviewed on television and he was asked what was in the wallet. Did he answer that there were two ID's in the wallet, one in Oswald's name and the other for Hidell? No, he didn't. He just said he found some card with Oswald's name on it and a driver's license and a credit card. In fact, Bentley, nor any of the three other officers in the car reported about the name Hidell being found in the wallet. Bentley never testified before the WC and that was likely for a reason.

Now, let's turn to the other wallet, found at the Tippit crime scene. FBI agent Bob Barrett confirmed it was in fact a wallet. He also confirmed that Captain Westbrook, at some point, asked him if he knew somebody called Oswald or Hidell. Westbrook found those names in the wallet.

So, what happened? Well, when Detective Guss Rose arrived at DPD HQ just after Oswald had been brought in. An unidentified officer gave him a wallet and said it belonged to Oswald. Rose then proceeded to talk to Oswald.

The question now is; Did the unidentified officer give Rose the wallet Bentley took from Oswald (with no Hidell ID, a driver's license and a credit card) or the wallet Westbrook and Barrett saw at the Tippit murder scene (with the Oswald and Hidell ID in it)?

Do the math...

[Martin Weidmann]

Richard, you're using way too much logic and common sense here.

What we see in the footage could have been a "citation book" or a note pad of some sort, belonging to Tippit.  In fact, that was my stance on it for years though now I have accepted that it may be a wallet.  But you're right, that it is some sort of a citation book or notepad shouldn't be ruled out, though if a citation book, Tippit didn't write anything down related to the man he stopped.

Actually, we can rule out that it was a "citation book" because FBI agent Bob Barrett said that it was a wallet. Or is Barrett lying?

[Bill Brown]

Actually, we can rule out that it was a "citation book" because FBI agent Bob Barrett said that it was a wallet. Or is Barrett lying?

There is nothing from Barrett that weekend, that month, the rest of 1963, during the investigation in 1964... or any time during the decade of the 60's or the 70's where Barrett ever mentions any wallet at all.

The same can be said for Westbrook and/or Owens.

[Martin Weidmann]

There is nothing from Barrett that weekend, that month, the rest of 1963, during the investigation in 1964... or any time during the decade of the 60's or the 70's where Barrett ever mentions any wallet at all.

The same can be said for Westbrook and/or Owens.

So, Barrett was lying?

[Jon Banks]

There is nothing from Barrett that weekend, that month, the rest of 1963, during the investigation in 1964... or any time during the decade of the 60's or the 70's where Barrett ever mentions any wallet at all.

The same can be said for Westbrook and/or Owens.

There's news footage of police officers inspecting a wallet at the Tippit murder scene.

Also, didn't James Hosty corroborate Barrett's claim in one of his books?

As for Barrett not speaking on the issue for decades, bear in mind that most of these bureaucrats involved with the investigations weren't willing to risk their careers by blowing the whistle on the problems with the evidence. Being a government whistleblower usually doesn't end well. To that extent, it makes sense why some of them waited until retirement to speak more openly about weird things they observed.

[Jon Banks]

Now, let's apply some factual information to see where we get. Paul Bentley was the officer who took Oswald's wallet from him in the car while en route to DPD HQ. The next day he was interviewed on television and he was asked what was in the wallet. Did he answer that there were two ID's in the wallet, one in Oswald's name and the other for Hidell? No, he didn't. He just said he found some card with Oswald's name on it and a driver's license and a credit card. In fact, Bentley, nor any of the three other officers in the car reported about the name Hidell being found in the wallet. Bentley never testified before the WC and that was likely for a reason.

Now, let's turn to the other wallet, found at the Tippit crime scene. FBI agent Bob Barrett confirmed it was in fact a wallet. He also confirmed that Captain Westbrook, at some point, asked him if he knew somebody called Oswald or Hidell. Westbrook found those names in the wallet.

So, what happened? Well, when Detective Guss Rose arrived at DPD HQ just after Oswald had been brought in. An unidentified officer gave him a wallet and said it belonged to Oswald. Rose then proceeded to talk to Oswald.

The question now is; Did the unidentified officer give Rose the wallet Bentley took from Oswald (with no Hidell ID, a driver's license and a credit card) or the wallet Westbrook and Barrett saw at the Tippit murder scene (with the Oswald and Hidell ID in it)?

Captain Westbrook was johnny on the spot that day. he was present at all three crime scenes (TSBD, the Tippit scene, and the movie theater).

I suspect (but can't prove) that Westbrook was part of the conspiracy and cover-up.

[Walt Cakebread]

There's news footage of police officers inspecting a wallet at the Tippit murder scene.

Also, didn't James Hosty corroborate Barrett's claim in one of his books?

As for Barrett not speaking on the issue for decades, bear in mind that most of these bureaucrats involved with the investigations weren't willing to risk their careers by blowing the whistle on the problems with the evidence. Being a government whistleblower usually doesn't end well. To that extent, it makes sense why some of them waited until retirement to speak more openly about weird things they observed.

Hosty??....The Man who destroyed evidence when he destroyed the Oswald letter??     His book is basically lies intended to prop up the official tale.

It good that many researchers are awakening to the fact that the Dallas Police and the FBI  were accessories ....