Who Killed J.D. Tippit?

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #315 on: June 16, 2023, 11:34:02 PM »
If the Hidell story was firmly implanted like you say, then we'd a bogus expect total recall

Why would “we” expect that? The story was implanted, not any precise or consistent details. That’s how gossip works.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #316 on: June 16, 2023, 11:35:18 PM »
Spot on. We already discussed most of this nonsense testimony recently, but either "Mytton" has fallen behind and is not aware of it or it's just another case of rinse, wash and repeat because of the total lack of a better argument.

Only Hill and Carroll were actually in the car with Oswald, when Bentley took his wallet and none of them said a word about a second ID for months.

What guys like Mytton will never be able to deal with is this;

In a memo written on 11/29/63, to Mr. Conrad and several other high ranking FBI officials, W.D. Griffith states that ASAC Dallas Kyle G. Clark has learned from the DPD that they forgot to photograph Oswald's wallet and it's content. They (the DPD) request that they be furnished with photographs of those items.

According to the memo, the wallet contained photographs of Oswald, his wife and a baby, as well as various Civil Service, Social Security and other identification cards. What isn't mentioned is a fake Hidell ID card.

There is a photograph of the photographs and ID cards that were in the wallet;



The fake Hidell ID is not there.

That photo was clearly taken much much later and at a time when the idea of a Hidell ID was "firmly implanted", so exactly what do you think it proves???

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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #317 on: June 16, 2023, 11:37:20 PM »
Why would “we” expect that? The story was implanted, not any precise or consistent details. That’s how gossip works.

You're all over the place, either the "Hidell Story" was firmly implanted or it wasn't?

JohnM

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #318 on: June 16, 2023, 11:41:24 PM »
That photo was clearly taken much much later and at a time when the idea of a Hidell ID was "firmly implanted", so exactly what do you think it proves???

JohnM

That photo was clearly taken much much later

Insignificant. It was taken by the National Archives and shows the content of the wallet as they have it in storage. What reason would the National Archive have to omit the Hidell photo if it was indeed ever in that wallet?

But if you are so sure of yourself why don't you just produce the photo(s) the DPD received from the FBI after they forgot to photograph the wallet and the content before handing it over to the FBI?

And let's not forget the memo I referred to doesn't mention the Hidell ID either. If you had learned the evidence you would have known that.

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #319 on: June 16, 2023, 11:45:09 PM »
You're all over the place, either the "Hidell Story" was firmly implanted or it wasn't?

JohnM

Expecting "total recall" after several months from two men who, for months, did not mention the Hidell ID being in the wallet at all is just plain stupid.

Online Charles Collins

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #320 on: June 17, 2023, 12:33:43 AM »
It appears to me that the photo of the contents of the wallet was taken of an exhibit of the actual items. This exhibit was in 2013. Speculation that these items represent a complete accounting of all that was in the wallet when LHO was arrested is pure speculation.


As part of a new exhibit called Three Shots Were Fired marking the 50th anniversary of Kennedy's assassination, the Newseum in Washington DC put on display several never-before-seen artifacts from that fateful day in November, including personal items that were in Oswald's possession on the day of his arrest.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2307792/Inside-assassins-wallet-Never-seen-pictures-Lee-Harvey-Oswalds-personal-items-display.html

Online Bill Brown

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Re: Who Killed J.D. Tippit?
« Reply #321 on: June 17, 2023, 02:06:20 AM »
It appears to me that the photo of the contents of the wallet was taken of an exhibit of the actual items. This exhibit was in 2013. Speculation that these items represent a complete accounting of all that was in the wallet when LHO was arrested is pure speculation.

That's exactly right, Charles.  It shouldn't need to be pointed out, but....