Ron Paul Says Kennedy Was Murdered

[Richard Smith]

We are told that the FBI was involved in the assassination and/or plot to frame Oswald but then they are cited to claim that his prints were not on the rifle!  HA HA HA.

Can you get even more simplistic than this? Do you think the entire FBI, a massive organisation, would be involved? What a shallow little man you truly are!

If you are going to lie about the evidence

Lying about evidence is actually your department, but I'll play along. What evidence did I lie about?

One print links Oswald to the rifle. 

No fool, there is no print that links Oswald to the rifle. All there is, is a print on an evidence card that Lt Day produced days after Oswald's death claiming he lifted it from the rifle. And then you tell me I misunderstand the points being made.... Hilarious!

It is baseless and stupid to argue that finding Oswald's print on the murder weapon is actually indicative of his innocence instead of guilt! Even you should be able to understand the astounding absurdity of that viewpoint.

Yes I do. That's why I never argued anything of the kind. You just made it up.

And if the authorities were willing to fabricate evidence and claim to have found Oswald's print, why not just claim they found a dozen on the rifle?

Because less is more often than not more! But this is the second time you raised this stupid argument and it seems you don't even understand just how stupid it is.

The fact that they did not claim to have found a dozen prints on the rifle but only one doesn't mean that the one print that allegedly was found is authentic.

And btw, in this case, it wasn't the "authorities" who fabricated evidence. At best it was on man (Day) and the "authorities" were more than willing to accept it, no questions asked.

Now, can you prove Oswald fired the shots or was that just another one of your false claims?

What an interesting psychological insight into the "logic" of a contrarian.  A must read for anyone who wants to understand how someone can be a closet CTer.  It's like Inspector Clouseau explaining that he suspects everyone and suspects no one.  Very amusing.  I particularly like the part where the logical inconsistency of the FBI's inability to confirm the print with otherwise being accused of being involved in the framing of Oswald is explained away as the product of the FBI being a "massive organization."  HA HA HA.  That level of idiocy doesn't come naturally.  It takes a lot of work to achieve.  Imagine the narrative that Martin from "Europe" entertains behind this fantasy.  He thinks the FBI is involved in framing Oswald for the assassination of the president.  When the most important piece of evidence - the rifle - is sent to them, they examine it but say they found none of Oswald's prints.  The guy they are framing for the crime!  Why?  Well, apparently the FBI is too big an organization for the conspirators within the FBI to manage the review of the single most important piece of evidence in the crime!  HA HA HA.  And on and on it goes with such ad hoc explanations of events that are not only baseless and logically inconsistent but moronic.

[Martin Weidmann]

What an interesting psychological insight into the "logic" of a contrarian.  A must read for anyone who wants to understand how someone can be a closet CTer.  It's like Inspector Clouseau explaining that he suspects everyone and suspects no one.  Very amusing.  I particularly like the part where the logical inconsistency of the FBI's inability to confirm the print with otherwise being accused of being involved in the framing of Oswald is explained away as the product of the FBI being a "massive organization."  HA HA HA.  That level of idiocy doesn't come naturally.  It takes a lot of work to achieve.  Imagine the narrative that Martin from "Europe" entertains behind this fantasy.  He thinks the FBI is involved in framing Oswald for the assassination of the president.  When the most important piece of evidence - the rifle - is sent to them, they examine it but say they found none of Oswald's prints.  The guy they are framing for the crime!  Why?  Well, apparently the FBI is too big an organization for the conspirators within the FBI to manage the review of the single most important piece of evidence in the crime!  HA HA HA.  And on and on it goes with such ad hoc explanations of events that are not only baseless and logically inconsistent but moronic.

Is there anything of relevance in this word salad?

I particularly like the part where the logical inconsistency of the FBI's inability to confirm the print with otherwise being accused of being involved in the framing of Oswald is explained away as the product of the FBI being a "massive organization."  HA HA HA.

What a tragic demonstration of total ignorance. You talk about the FBI as if it is one person and not a massive organization. And it is utterly false to claim that the FBI was unable to "confirm the print" (whatever that means), when in fact the FBI lab found no print on the rifle to begin with. How does one confirm a print that isn't there? Also, no sane person would ever claim that the entire FBI would be involved in framing Oswald. A few individuals at key places perhaps, but the bulk of FBI employees just carried out orders without having a clue what the total picture really was. But that goes way over you head, as per usual, right?

Imagine the narrative that Martin from "Europe" entertains behind this fantasy.  He thinks the FBI is involved in framing Oswald for the assassination of the president. 

That's not my narrative nor do I think that. What it really is, is one of your classic but worthless apagogical arguments.

When the most important piece of evidence - the rifle - is sent to them, they examine it but say they found none of Oswald's prints. The guy they are framing for the crime!  Why?

No, they said they found no prints at all on the rifle. Not Oswald's or those of anybody else. And they said it because it was obviously true and there was no way to say anything else simply because when the rifle was examined Oswald was still alive which means the case would go to court. The matter was of course cleaned up after Oswald's death when they blindly accepted the fairytale told to them by Lt Day! Didn't that evidence card come in handy all of a sudden......

[John Iacoletti]

Imagine the narrative that Martin from "Europe" entertains behind this fantasy.  He thinks the FBI is involved in framing Oswald for the assassination of the president. 

That's not my narrative nor do I think that. What it really is, is one of your classic but worthless apagogical arguments.

Strawman “Smith” strikes again. He’s apparently too ignorant to be embarrassed.

[Richard Smith]

Is there anything of relevance in this word salad?

I particularly like the part where the logical inconsistency of the FBI's inability to confirm the print with otherwise being accused of being involved in the framing of Oswald is explained away as the product of the FBI being a "massive organization."  HA HA HA.

What a tragic demonstration of total ignorance. You talk about the FBI as if it is one person and not a massive organization. And it is utterly false to claim that the FBI was unable to "confirm the print" (whatever that means), when in fact the FBI lab found no print on the rifle to begin with. How does one confirm a print that isn't there? Also, no sane person would ever claim that the entire FBI would be involved in framing Oswald. A few individuals at key places perhaps, but the bulk of FBI employees just carried out orders without having a clue what the total picture really was. But that goes way over you head, as per usual, right?

Imagine the narrative that Martin from "Europe" entertains behind this fantasy.  He thinks the FBI is involved in framing Oswald for the assassination of the president. 

That's not my narrative nor do I think that. What it really is, is one of your classic but worthless apagogical arguments.

When the most important piece of evidence - the rifle - is sent to them, they examine it but say they found none of Oswald's prints. The guy they are framing for the crime!  Why?

No, they said they found no prints at all on the rifle. Not Oswald's or those of anybody else. And they said it because it was obviously true and there was no way to say anything else simply because when the rifle was examined Oswald was still alive which means the case would go to court. The matter was of course cleaned up after Oswald's death when they blindly accepted the fairytale told to them by Lt Day! Didn't that evidence card come in handy all of a sudden......

Those poor FBI conspirators.  They pulled off the crime of the century but were just too "massive" to pay attention to the most important piece of evidence.  No imbecile in history could believe that baseless fantasy.  With the US paying for the defense of "Europe" it is disappointing to see that the "European" educational system is so lacking.  Your parents must be disappointed.  It's quite a coincidence that when the evidence lends itself to Oswald's guilt that is always suspect, but when it lends itself in any baseless manner to his innocence, it must be entertained.  But Martin from "Europe" is just a neutral arbiter who doesn't care about Oswald.  He is not suggesting a conspiracy.  Just that all the evidence is faked.  HA HA HA.  What a delusional and dishonest nut.

[Martin Weidmann]

Those poor FBI conspirators.  They pulled off the crime of the century but were just too "massive" to pay attention to the most important piece of evidence.  No imbecile in history could believe that baseless fantasy.  With the US paying for the defense of "Europe" it is disappointing to see that the "European" educational system is so lacking.  Your parents must be disappointed.  It's quite a coincidence that when the evidence lends itself to Oswald's guilt that is always suspect, but when it lends itself in any baseless manner to his innocence, it must be entertained.  But Martin from "Europe" is just a neutral arbiter who doesn't care about Oswald.  He is not suggesting a conspiracy.  Just that all the evidence is faked.  HA HA HA.  What a delusional and dishonest nut.

So, all you have is an incoherent rant about all sorts of insignificant and utterly false gobbledygook?
No wonder you are a Trump supporter. Did you learn this from your master?

With the US paying for the defense of "Europe" it is disappointing to see that the "European" educational system is so lacking.

What in the world does the defense of Europe have to do with the European educational system, which btw is far better than the US equivalent?

[Richard Smith]

So, all you have is an incoherent rant about all sorts of insignificant and utterly false gobbledygook?
No wonder you are a Trump supporter. Did you learn this from your master?

With the US paying for the defense of "Europe" it is disappointing to see that the "European" educational system is so lacking.

What in the world does the defense of Europe have to do with the European educational system, which btw is far better than the US equivalent?

Of course the educational system is better in "Europe" than the US.  LOL.  That is because the US has paid for the defense of "Europe" for 70 years and counting.  Imagine the educational, health care, and other social programs the US would have had if "Europe" had paid for our national defense or at least their own.  Instead the US politicians like Ukraine Joe are stupid and corrupt.  Unfortunately, you do not seem to have benefitted from these educational advantages.  There are exceptions to every rule. 

[Martin Weidmann]

Of course the educational system is better in "Europe" than the US.  LOL.  That is because the US has paid for the defense of "Europe" for 70 years and counting.  Imagine the educational, health care, and other social programs the US would have had if "Europe" had paid for our national defense or at least their own.  Instead the US politicians like Ukraine Joe are stupid and corrupt.  Unfortunately, you do not seem to have benefitted from these educational advantages.  There are exceptions to every rule.

Grumpy is whining again...

Imagine the educational, health care, and other social programs the US would have had if "Europe" had paid for our national defense or at least their own.

They would have had exactly the same flawed systems they have today. But you need at least some basic level of intelligence to figure that out!

If you're going to blame anybody for the sad state of affairs in education, health care etc, blame the Republicans, not foreign countries.