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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Ron Paul Says Kennedy Was Murdered
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2023, 02:59:48 AM »
No, he could have been innocent merely by not doing it.
Yes, if Oswald was the patsy the conspirators would never have relied on him to use a crap rifle with a misaligned scope to take out the POTUS. No way. The MC was the patsy rifle which was already planted on the 6th floor by the DPD. But Oswald never took a shot or he would have had prints all over the rifle and the boxes and gunshot residue on his face.

The capper is that there wasn't a valid trajectory from the 6th floor of the TSBD, into JFK's back and out his throat. For that trajectory to work, the 2nd shot would have had to come from the 2nd floor of the DalTex building with the Mauser.  I suppose Oswald could have rushed from the DalTex building to the 2nd floor of the TSBD in 90 seconds, with Mauser in tow. So I concede it still could have been Oswald or perhaps Colonel Mustard did it in the Conservatory with a revolver!
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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Ron Paul Says Kennedy Was Murdered
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2023, 02:42:20 PM »
Yes, if Oswald was the patsy the conspirators would never have relied on him to use a crap rifle with a misaligned scope to take out the POTUS. No way. The MC was the patsy rifle which was already planted on the 6th floor by the DPD. But Oswald never took a shot or he would have had prints all over the rifle and the boxes and gunshot residue on his face.

The capper is that there wasn't a valid trajectory from the 6th floor of the TSBD, into JFK's back and out his throat. For that trajectory to work, the 2nd shot would have had to come from the 2nd floor of the DalTex building with the Mauser.  I suppose Oswald could have rushed from the DalTex building to the 2nd floor of the TSBD in 90 seconds, with Mauser in tow. So I concede it still could have been Oswald or perhaps Colonel Mustard did it in the Conservatory with a revolver!

Why do you keep insisting that the scope was "misaligned" when the condition of that scope at the moment Oswald fired the shots can't be known?  Oswald's prints WERE on the rifle.  How many criminals are in jail because they left an identifiable print at the crime scene or on the murder weapon?  LOL.  Baseless claims like there should have been MORE of his prints on the rifle are laughable as a defense.   If you are suggesting the print found was the product of fakery to frame Oswald, then why didn't the authorities just claim they found a dozen such prints. 

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Re: Ron Paul Says Kennedy Was Murdered
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2023, 04:22:33 PM »
Why do you keep insisting that the scope was "misaligned" when the condition of that scope at the moment Oswald fired the shots can't be known?  Oswald's prints WERE on the rifle.  How many criminals are in jail because they left an identifiable print at the crime scene or on the murder weapon?  LOL.  Baseless claims like there should have been MORE of his prints on the rifle are laughable as a defense.   If you are suggesting the print found was the product of fakery to frame Oswald, then why didn't the authorities just claim they found a dozen such prints.

at the moment Oswald fired the shots

huh? You can prove he fired the shots? Really? That would really settle the 60 years debate. Why don't you get in touch with the media? I'm sure they would be very interested in this information!

Oswald's prints WERE on the rifle

No. The FBI examined the rifle early Saturday morning and found no prints at all.

So, why do you keep insisting that Oswald's prints were on the rifle?

If you are suggesting the print found was the product of fakery to frame Oswald, then why didn't the authorities just claim they found a dozen such prints.

Are you really rather foolishly suggesting that because they only "found" one print, it can't be the product of evidence manipulation? Seriously?
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Re: Ron Paul Says Kennedy Was Murdered
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2023, 10:07:40 PM »
at the moment Oswald fired the shots

huh? You can prove he fired the shots? Really? That would really settle the 60 years debate. Why don't you get in touch with the media? I'm sure they would be very interested in this information!

Oswald's prints WERE on the rifle

No. The FBI examined the rifle early Saturday morning and found no prints at all.

So, why do you keep insisting that Oswald's prints were on the rifle?

If you are suggesting the print found was the product of fakery to frame Oswald, then why didn't the authorities just claim they found a dozen such prints.

Are you really rather foolishly suggesting that because they only "found" one print, it can't be the product of evidence manipulation? Seriously?

Round and round we go.  We are told that the FBI was involved in the assassination and/or plot to frame Oswald but then they are cited to claim that his prints were not on the rifle!  HA HA HA.  If you are going to lie about the evidence and suggest fabrication, at least frame your argument in a consistent way.  You also misunderstand the points being made.  I was responding to someone who baselessly claimed that the authorities should have found many prints instead of just one on the rifle.  One print links Oswald to the rifle.  Many criminals are in jail for leaving one print at the crime scene or on the murder weapon.  It is baseless and stupid to argue that finding Oswald's print on the murder weapon is actually indicative of his innocence instead of guilt!  Even you should be able to understand the astounding absurdity of that viewpoint.  It is upside down Alice-in-Wonderland logic.  And if the authorities were willing to fabricate evidence and claim to have found Oswald's print, why not just claim they found a dozen on the rifle?  Astounding.  You should be embarrassed.

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Re: Ron Paul Says Kennedy Was Murdered
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2023, 11:28:04 PM »
Round and round we go.  We are told that the FBI was involved in the assassination and/or plot to frame Oswald but then they are cited to claim that his prints were not on the rifle!  HA HA HA.  If you are going to lie about the evidence and suggest fabrication, at least frame your argument in a consistent way.  You also misunderstand the points being made.  I was responding to someone who baselessly claimed that the authorities should have found many prints instead of just one on the rifle.  One print links Oswald to the rifle.  Many criminals are in jail for leaving one print at the crime scene or on the murder weapon.  It is baseless and stupid to argue that finding Oswald's print on the murder weapon is actually indicative of his innocence instead of guilt!  Even you should be able to understand the astounding absurdity of that viewpoint.  It is upside down Alice-in-Wonderland logic.  And if the authorities were willing to fabricate evidence and claim to have found Oswald's print, why not just claim they found a dozen on the rifle?  Astounding.  You should be embarrassed.

We are told that the FBI was involved in the assassination and/or plot to frame Oswald but then they are cited to claim that his prints were not on the rifle!  HA HA HA.

Can you get even more simplistic than this? Do you think the entire FBI, a massive organisation, would be involved? What a shallow little man you truly are!

If you are going to lie about the evidence

Lying about evidence is actually your department, but I'll play along. What evidence did I lie about?

One print links Oswald to the rifle. 

No fool, there is no print that links Oswald to the rifle. All there is, is a print on an evidence card that Lt Day produced days after Oswald's death claiming he lifted it from the rifle. And then you tell me I misunderstand the points being made.... Hilarious!

It is baseless and stupid to argue that finding Oswald's print on the murder weapon is actually indicative of his innocence instead of guilt! Even you should be able to understand the astounding absurdity of that viewpoint.

Yes I do. That's why I never argued anything of the kind. You just made it up.

And if the authorities were willing to fabricate evidence and claim to have found Oswald's print, why not just claim they found a dozen on the rifle?

Because less is more often than not more! But this is the second time you raised this stupid argument and it seems you don't even understand just how stupid it is.

The fact that they did not claim to have found a dozen prints on the rifle but only one doesn't mean that the one print that allegedly was found is authentic.

And btw, in this case, it wasn't the "authorities" who fabricated evidence. At best it was on man (Day) and the "authorities" were more than willing to accept it, no questions asked.

Now, can you prove Oswald fired the shots or was that just another one of your false claims?



Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Ron Paul Says Kennedy Was Murdered
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2023, 01:23:13 AM »
Round and round we go.  We are told that the FBI was involved in the assassination and/or plot to frame Oswald but then they are cited to claim that his prints were not on the rifle!  HA HA HA.  If you are going to lie about the evidence and suggest fabrication, at least frame your argument in a consistent way.  You also misunderstand the points being made.  I was responding to someone who baselessly claimed that the authorities should have found many prints instead of just one on the rifle.  One print links Oswald to the rifle.  Many criminals are in jail for leaving one print at the crime scene or on the murder weapon.  It is baseless and stupid to argue that finding Oswald's print on the murder weapon is actually indicative of his innocence instead of guilt!  Even you should be able to understand the astounding absurdity of that viewpoint.  It is upside down Alice-in-Wonderland logic.  And if the authorities were willing to fabricate evidence and claim to have found Oswald's print, why not just claim they found a dozen on the rifle?  Astounding.  You should be embarrassed.

I should be embarrassed? :D You're the one that loses every argument on this site. You are an endless playlist of lame LNer excuses and a textbook disinformationalist, just like the KGB, who are inexorably linked to the JFK assassination and will perpetuate the LNer myth until everyone involved is dead. Not that I am accusing you of being a propagandist troll, because I doubt anyone would pay you to be one. Being a MAGAT-Q member, I figured disinformation was just your hobby.

Ps. If you actually think that Oswald disassembled the rifle, then placed all its parts, including the misaligned scope, into a bag, then brought it into work and up to the 6th floor, then removed the parts from the bag and reassembled the rifle (using a trusty dime), took 3 shots and then ditched the rifle and only left a partial palm print later found between the stock and the barrel...then you must either be a retard or a disinformationalist troll. Either way, you have an embarrassing hobby.


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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Ron Paul Says Kennedy Was Murdered
« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2023, 02:34:10 PM »
I should be embarrassed? :D You're the one that loses every argument on this site. You are an endless playlist of lame LNer excuses and a textbook disinformationalist, just like the KGB, who are inexorably linked to the JFK assassination and will perpetuate the LNer myth until everyone involved is dead. Not that I am accusing you of being a propagandist troll, because I doubt anyone would pay you to be one. Being a MAGAT-Q member, I figured disinformation was just your hobby.

Ps. If you actually think that Oswald disassembled the rifle, then placed all its parts, including the misaligned scope, into a bag, then brought it into work and up to the 6th floor, then removed the parts from the bag and reassembled the rifle (using a trusty dime), took 3 shots and then ditched the rifle and only left a partial palm print later found between the stock and the barrel...then you must either be a retard or a disinformationalist troll. Either way, you have an embarrassing hobby.

LOL.  You can't even keep track of who I'm addressing.  That is embarrassing.  What is with your fixation with "Q"?  No one here has ever raised that except for you.