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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Succession
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2022, 07:26:29 PM »
I believe you'll find that William Manchester was a brilliant and clever author.....   He often presents the truth about the assassination, but then he cleverly conceals  the truth in a proposing a counter theory.   ( He would never have gotten the book published if he hadn't )


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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2022, 09:49:41 PM »

I have already read this account and you (as usual) have it all wrong. I am assuming this is the passage you are referring to:


For Walton, Moynihan, Horsky, and Duke, mourning thus began early; for John W. McCormack the confirmation was a private anticlimax. The Speaker had still been in the House restaurant when two reporters came to his table and said that Kennedy had been shot. Other reporters and Congressmen then began to dart up with bits and pieces of information. The appearance of priests convinced McCormack that the President had succumbed. Then, in the next minute, he was told that the Vice President had been shot and, in the minute after that, that Secret Service agents were on their way to the Hill to protect him. Although the first report was inaccurate, the second was true; under the succession act of July 18, 1947, inspired by Harry Truman’s affection for Sam Rayburn, the Speaker (rather than the Secretary of State, as in the past) was second in line of succession, and if both Kennedy and Johnson had been murdered, Rayburn’s aged successor was now President of the United States. At 2:18 P.M. in Washington the possibility seemed very real. It struck McCormack, he later recalled, with “a terrific impact.” He rose unsteadily from his chair and immediately suffered a severe attack of vertigo. Linen, waiters, tableware swam before his eyes; he thought he was going to lose consciousness and tumble to the floor. Passing a palsied hand over his eyes, he sank back to his seat, and he was still there, trembling, when a Congressman called over that Johnson was unharmed.


McCormack had been told that LBJ had also been shot (see the part that I underlined). So your idea has no merit.

Perhaps I read. in another book that LBJ thought that Mc Cormack was planning to be sworn in, and that had him soiling his skivvies..... But I thought it was in The Death Of A President....

I'll have to admit that it was Manchester's book that opened the door to the case for me....I hadn't read the book which had only been published about a year earlier, when my brother and I got into a discussion about the coup d' etat.   I knew very little about the murder but I felt that we had been handed a dog turd ( the WR) presented as a candy bar, by LBJ's "Special Blue Ribbon Committee"  but my brother told me to read Manchester's TDOAP And so I did.....  And that opened the door.   I wasn't at all convinced by Manchester's book but I'll have to admit the man presented many facts ....... 
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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Succession
« Reply #30 on: December 20, 2022, 09:54:56 PM »
Perhaps I read. in another book that LBJ thought that Mc Cormack was planning to be sworn in, and that had him soiling his skivvies..... But I thought it was in The Death Of A President....


Probably another book. But if I encounter anything like that I will let you know.

Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #31 on: December 20, 2022, 10:33:08 PM »
Enlighten me by quoting your source instead of playing a thousand questions.  I didn't see anything in the OP to support what you have suggested

Meanwhile, six months later, we're still waiting on a single iota of evidence for "Richard's" claim that Oswald was on the sixth floor at 12:30 and went down the northwest staircases in 75 seconds without being seen or heard by at least 12 people along the way.

A. Single. Iota.

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Succession
« Reply #32 on: December 21, 2022, 07:18:21 PM »
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Oswald saw them first. Duh.

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« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2022, 06:27:15 AM »
At least they didn’t go to the Jerry Organ school of “it could have happened, therefore it did happen”.

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« Reply #34 on: December 22, 2022, 09:45:22 AM »
And there weren't twelve people eye-locked on the backstairs, with all that was still happening outside (sirens, people ducking).

I think they went to the Micheal Griffith School of Histrionics.

Who were 'The12' (shoutout to Killing Eve btw). Surely they made noise as did Oswald, except he had good reason to be quiet on those stairs, while the others might just as well have been mannequins. By the way tests show 'the First 48' (seconds) could have been a factor while 'the First 59' (years) seem to be still too soon. Oswald Arse Kissers better back those chuckwagons up if they're fixin' to claim some sort of truth on mere estimations. No stopwatches, no evidence. Yet Garner's 'if he had been there I would have seen him' draws no fire from our Atheist friends.

Garner claims utter chaos, people running everywhere. By comparison, read any CTer and you'd think Oswald was in a freakin' library.
One's eyebrows remain raised.


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