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LNers Can't Explain the Two Back-of-Head Bullet Fragments
Andrew Mason:
--- Quote from: Jerry Organ on March 09, 2023, 04:19:42 PM ---
There's no major change in where Connally is seated between Z161 and Z193. That's about two seconds.
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You are avoiding answering the question. You need to make your positions in your 3D model as shown here:
when viewed from Zapruder's position (without making any change whatsoever to the model) look like this:
If you find the resolution too difficult to work with, then compare your positions to the positions they were in on Houston Street:
Andrew Mason:
--- Quote from: Jerry Organ on March 10, 2023, 12:20:18 AM ---You ought to restore that cropped image of my model to its full context ...
The inset scenes of the model are from the same SketchUp 3D model. One limousine. One Plaza. One set of human figures. It's for Z195. It's saved in it's own unique file. Nothing changed between camera-scenes.
No changes made in the figure models that appear in the inset pictures, if that's what you're implying. You really think I'm that dishonest?
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Jerry, you are saying that the men in this position, with JBC turned to the right so that his shoulders are square to Zapruder:
or
are in the same position as this:
in which JBC is facing forward. In z195 (I am using a clearer view in z193) he was turned to the right. Earlier (z153) he was turned forward:
Andrew Mason:
--- Quote from: Jerry Organ on March 10, 2023, 09:38:54 PM ---I see now. With regard to the shoulders of Connally, it appears this is how I showed Connally's torso (neutral) in Croft and repeated it in the Z195 model. I don't see it being a big deal. I will probably rotate the shoulders similar to Myers' version for Z193 and allow for a part of the shoulder ball to project back over the seatback, as Myers has done.
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I can't tell if you have JBC turned enough in your recreation of frame z195 (the view from Zapruder's position) because the resolution is not sufficient. But it looks very similar to his position in z193.
If so, you don't have to change anything in your model. Just rotate the view so we can see the two men up close from overhead and from the SN.
--- Quote ---Your amount of rotation, shown (left-inset) in the graphic following, is ridiculous.
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In my model the shoulders are over-rotated in order to get the lower back turned. But the bullet from the SN through JFK's midline passes just over the back of the jump seat which is well below the shoulder level.
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Michael T. Griffith:
Just giving this thread a bump to reinforce the point that lone-gunman theorists have no even halfway credible/believable explanation for the two bullet fragments in the very back of JFK's skull. Their own leading wound ballistics expert, Dr. Larry Sturdivan, has admitted that the ammo that Oswald allegedly used would not and could not have deposited bullet fragments in or near the rear outer table of the skull, especially given the fact that the nose and tail of the supposed lone-gunman head-shot bullet were found in the limousine, which means that any fragments would have had to come from the bullet's cross section.
I devote an entire chapter to this issue in my book A Comforting Lie.
I also address it in my article "Forensic Science and President Kennedy's Head Wounds" (link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jYMrT9P4ab2BtENAqI_0dQSEY6IJWczi/view).
Marjan Rynkiewicz:
--- Quote from: Michael T. Griffith on December 04, 2023, 01:04:57 PM ---Just giving this thread a bump to reinforce the point that lone-gunman theorists have no even halfway credible/believable explanation for the two bullet fragments in the very back of JFK's skull. Their own leading wound ballistics expert, Dr. Larry Sturdivan, has admitted that the ammo that Oswald allegedly used would not and could not have deposited bullet fragments in or near the rear outer table of the skull, especially given the fact that the nose and tail of the supposed lone-gunman head-shot bullet were found in the limousine, which means that any fragments would have had to come from the bullet's cross section.
I devote an entire chapter to this issue in my book A Comforting Lie.
I also address it in my article "Forensic Science and President Kennedy's Head Wounds" (link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jYMrT9P4ab2BtENAqI_0dQSEY6IJWczi/view).
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Everything that u have ever said about anything has been complete krapp.
The lead fragments in xray in jfk's galea were from Oswald's shot-1 ricochet offa the guy rod of the overhead signals at Z105.
The 2 brass fragments of the jacket were from Oswald's shot-1.
My comments on threads are 100% correct.
Your comments are 100% wrong.
The fragments in galea do not & can not sink the LNer theory.
The LNer theory is sunk by other facts/evidence, but it aint sunk by the galea fragments.
SHHEEEESHHHHHHHHHHH.
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