Oswald's Motive

[Martin Weidmann]

It doesn't make sense that Oswald wanted the bigger box to sit on and the smaller Rolling Readers boxes (sitting atop one of the bigger boxes) to act as the gun rest?

You're not very open-minded.

It doesn't make sense that Oswald wanted the bigger box to sit on and the smaller Rolling Readers boxes (sitting atop one of the bigger boxes) to act as the gun rest?

No, what doesn't make sense to me is that the assassin would go look for smaller boxes than those already near the sniper's nest. He wasn't decorating the place, was he now?

You're not very open-minded.

That's only true when you consider anybody who doesn't instantly agree with you as not having an open-mind. How about your own open-mindedness?

Yes, you kinda did.

If you say so... 

Deny all you wish, but you implied it.

Again, if you say so.... it must be so, right?   

But seriously, as I am the one who wrote it, I'm probably the best person who knows what I was saying, don't you think? It's not really my problem if you don't understand it or if you want to make something out of nothing.

[Bill Brown]

Look.

Oswald walked three whole aisles (crazy, I know) to get two of the smaller Rolling Readers boxes to use as the gun rest in the sniper's nest.  Oswald was the only employee who's prints were on those boxes and the prints were recent.  The floor laying crew would have no reason to move those boxes since they were not over on the west end of the floor (like they did with the bigger boxes containing books).  The two Rolling Readers boxes, being three aisles away from the sniper's nest, had no business in the sniper's nest other than to be used as a gun rest.

Whoever shot from up there most likely had the boxes in place before Bonnie Ray Williams arrived.  So the point that Williams was up there until 12:20 or 12:25 (which itself is debatable) and therefore created an extra risk for the shooter to move boxes around AFTER Williams left, is most likely invalid.

There is no photographic evidence of law enforcement personnel climbing all over boxes in the sniper's nest, despite what has been claimed here in this thread.

[Martin Weidmann]

Look.

Oswald walked three whole aisles (crazy, I know) to get two of the smaller Rolling Readers boxes to use as the gun rest in the sniper's nest.  Oswald was the only employee who's prints were on those boxes and the prints were recent.  The floor laying crew would have no reason to move those boxes since they were not over on the west end of the floor (like they did with the bigger boxes containing books).  The two Rolling Readers boxes, being three aisles away from the sniper's nest, had no business in the sniper's nest other than to be used as a gun rest.

Whoever shot from up there most likely had the boxes in place before Bonnie Ray Williams arrived.  So the point that Williams was up there until 12:20 or 12:25 (which itself is debatable) and therefore created an extra risk for the shooter to move boxes around AFTER Williams left, is most likely invalid.

There is no photographic evidence of law enforcement personnel climbing all over boxes in the sniper's nest, despite what has been claimed here in this thread.

Oswald walked three whole aisles (crazy, I know) to get two of the smaller Rolling Readers boxes to use as the gun rest in the sniper's nest.

Please show us the evidence for this claim.

Oswald was the only employee who's prints were on those boxes and the prints were recent.

Kinda strange in a warehouse where multiple employees were moving boxes on a daily bases, don't you think?

The floor laying crew would have no reason to move those boxes since they were not over on the west end of the floor (like they did with the bigger boxes containing books).

If you say so...

The two Rolling Readers boxes, being three aisles away from the sniper's nest, had no business in the sniper's nest other than to be used as a gun rest.

Again, if you say so. Thank you for sharing your opinion.

Whoever shot from up there most likely had the boxes in place before Bonnie Ray Williams arrived.  So the point that Williams was up there until 12:20 or 12:25 (which itself is debatable) and therefore created an extra risk for the shooter to move boxes around AFTER Williams left, is most likely invalid.

Most likely?

There is no photographic evidence of law enforcement personnel climbing all over boxes in the sniper's nest, despite what has been claimed here in this thread.

I never said there was...and I most certainly never claimed that in this thread. Why do you need to make this up?

[Jon Banks]

Please cite this "indirect corroboration" from other witnesses for Oswald eating lunch at the time of the shooting.  Surely, you're not meaning Carolyn Arnold since she didn't say anything about seeing Oswald at 12:30.

OSWALD stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and he claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunch room; however he went to the second floor where the Coca–Cola machine was located and obtained a bottle of Coca–Cola for his lunch. OSWALD claimed to be on the first floor when President JOHN F. KENNEDY passed this building. … he then went home by bus and changed his clothes.

(WR, p.613)


Yes, Arnold and other witnesses indirectly corroborated that Oswald came downstairs for lunch.


OSWALD stated that on November 22, 1963, he had eaten lunch in the lunch room at the Texas School Book Depository, alone, but recalled possibly two Negro employees walking through the room during this period. He stated possibly one of these employees was called ‘Junior’ and the other was a short individual whose name he could not recall but whom he would be able to recognize.

(WR, p.622)


James 'Junior' Jarman and Harold Norman entered TSBD together and walked past the Domino Room around 12:20. Oswald had to be in the vicinity of the Domino Room to know that.

If he acted alone, there's no way he could've known that Kennedy's motorcade was running a few minutes late. So why wasn't he on the sixth floor at that time?

[Bill Brown]

Oswald was the only employee who's prints were on those boxes and the prints were recent.

Kinda strange in a warehouse where multiple employees were moving boxes on a daily bases, don't you think?

Not strange at all if Oswald was the only employee who touched those two boxes in the past couple days.  Seriously, what don't you get about this?

[Bill Brown]

OSWALD stated that he went to lunch at approximately noon and he claimed he ate his lunch on the first floor in the lunch room; however he went to the second floor where the Coca–Cola machine was located and obtained a bottle of Coca–Cola for his lunch. OSWALD claimed to be on the first floor when President JOHN F. KENNEDY passed this building. … he then went home by bus and changed his clothes.

(WR, p.613)


Yes, Arnold and other witnesses indirectly corroborated that Oswald came downstairs for lunch.


OSWALD stated that on November 22, 1963, he had eaten lunch in the lunch room at the Texas School Book Depository, alone, but recalled possibly two Negro employees walking through the room during this period. He stated possibly one of these employees was called ‘Junior’ and the other was a short individual whose name he could not recall but whom he would be able to recognize.

(WR, p.622)


James 'Junior' Jarman and Harold Norman entered TSBD together and walked past the Domino Room around 12:20. Oswald had to be in the vicinity of the Domino Room to know that.

If he acted alone, there's no way he could've known that Kennedy's motorcade was running a few minutes late. So why wasn't he on the sixth floor at that time?

None of that is corroboration that Oswald was eating his lunch at the time of the shooting.

[Martin Weidmann]

Not strange at all ifOswald was the only employee who touched those two boxes in the past couple days.  Seriously, what don't you get about this?

"if"?

Btw, are you going to provide evidence for your claim that "Oswald walked three whole aisles (crazy, I know) to get two of the smaller Rolling Readers boxes to use as the gun rest in the sniper's nest."?

[John Iacoletti]

The two "Rolling readers" boxes in the sniper's nest were originally about three aisles over from the sniper's nest window and were taken to that window for the purposes of being used as a gun rest.

There’s no evidence that the Rolling Readers boxes were “taken to that window for the purposes of being used as a gun rest”. Or that they were even used as a gun rest.