Oswald's Motive

[Paul May]

Bill omitted the fact that everyone who knew Oswald personally said he liked JFK and agreed with Kennedy's pro-Civil Rights policies (unlike General Edwin Walker who was a bigot and pro-Segregation).

Even after the Bay of Pigs and Cuban Missile crisis, LHO had a favorable opinion of JFK. That speaks volumes.

While it's fair to argue that Oswald had political motives for targeting Gen. Walker ("if" he targeted Walker), there is no evidence that LHO held a grudge towards JFK.

Bill omitted the fact that Oswald reportedly told Capt. Fritz that he didn't think Lyndon Johnson's policies towards Cuba would be different from Kennedy's.

Bill omitted the fact that LHO had no known friends who were Marxists. Nearly everyone whom he associated with was anti-communist. His Fair Play For Cuba organization was fake. There were no members. Oswald's real intentions for setting up the fake FPFC chapter remain ambiguous.

Lastly, politically motivated assassins and terrorists tend to take credit for their work. So it would be highly unusual for a political assassin or terrorist to deny responsibility if the act was motivated by politics.

Oswald may or may not have liked JFK. We’ll never know. What we do have a fairly good idea about is Oswald’s life and belief system. I don’t believe Oswald was shooting at JFK personally. I believe he was shooting at the POTUS and all that position represented to the world.

[Martin Weidmann]

Here is Martin denying that anyone has "ever claimed that Oswald's relatives were 'in on his frame up."   I guess I dreamed all those endless posts about Marina lying to implicate Oswald for the authorities.  We can now all agree that her testimony confirms that Oswald posed for the BY photos, owned a rifle, stored it in the Paine's garage, confessed to trying to assassinate Walker etc.  I'm glad we are making progress!

Here is Martin denying that anyone has "ever claimed that Oswald's relatives were 'in on his frame up."

Here's "Richard" dreaming up another misrepresentation of what was actually said. The constant and desperate need for all these misrepresentations is the best evidence of just how weak the case against Oswald is....

I guess I dreamed all those endless posts about Marina lying to implicate Oswald for the authorities.

You seem to be dreaming up a lot of bogus claims and misrepresentations and the weird thing is that you are somehow doing it while awake.

We can now all agree that her testimony confirms that Oswald posed for the BY photos, owned a rifle, stored it in the Paine's garage, confessed to trying to assassinate Walker etc.

Aha more stuff you have dreamed up. Nice try though....

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Oswald may or may not have liked JFK. We’ll never know. What we do have a fairly good idea about is Oswald’s life and belief system. I don’t believe Oswald was shooting at JFK personally. I believe he was shooting at the POTUS and all that position represented to the world.

Not to sidetrack this (but I will anyway <g>), if I'm framing Oswald and I have all of this power then I'm getting 10 people to say that he said he hated JFK.

Supposedly all of these eyewitnesses were coached or ordered to frame Oswald. People like Marina, Robert Oswald, the DeMohrenschildts, Ruth Paine, Michael Paine.....And none of them were directed to say that Oswald expressed hatred towards JFK?

If Ruth and Michael Paine were, as alleged, CIA agents/assets who framed Oswald, they sure as heck are going to say he said he detested JFK.

[Paul May]

Not to sidetrack this (but I will anyway <g>), if I'm framing Oswald and I have all of this power then I'm getting 10 people to say that he said he hated JFK.

Supposedly all of these eyewitnesses were coached or ordered to frame Oswald. People like Marina, Robert Oswald, the DeMohrenschildts, Ruth Paine, Michael Paine.....And none of them were directed to say that Oswald expressed hatred towards JFK?

If Ruth and Michael Paine were, as alleged, CIA agents/assets who framed Oswald, they sure as heck are going to say he said he detested JFK.

Nobody framed Oswald. 59 years and no hard evidence to support that claim. None.

[Jon Banks]

Oswald may or may not have liked JFK. We’ll never know. What we do have a fairly good idea about is Oswald’s life and belief system. I don’t believe Oswald was shooting at JFK personally. I believe he was shooting at the POTUS and all that position represented to the world.

There’s no evidence that he disliked Kennedy and there’s some things we have yet to learn about Oswald’s life.

Not only was he very secretive but the government hasn’t declassified everything that they know about Oswald and the Kennedy assassination. So there may be more to learn about him.

[Jon Banks]

Not to sidetrack this (but I will anyway <g>), if I'm framing Oswald and I have all of this power then I'm getting 10 people to say that he said he hated JFK.

Supposedly all of these eyewitnesses were coached or ordered to frame Oswald. People like Marina, Robert Oswald, the DeMohrenschildts, Ruth Paine, Michael Paine.....And none of them were directed to say that Oswald expressed hatred towards JFK?

If Ruth and Michael Paine were, as alleged, CIA agents/assets who framed Oswald, they sure as heck are going to say he said he detested JFK.

It’s plausible that DeMorenschildt and the Paines babysat and informed on Oswald before 11/22/63 at worst (their relationships with the US intelligence community seems too coincidental).

However, I don’t think most serious researchers have alleged that those people helped frame Oswald before 11/22/63. Seems like another strawman argument…

[Steve M. Galbraith]

It’s plausible that DeMorenschildt and the Paines babysat and informed on Oswald before 11/22/63 at worst (their relationships with the US intelligence community seems too coincidental).

However, I don’t think most serious researchers have alleged that those people helped frame Oswald before 11/22/63. Seems like another strawman argument…

Strawmen argument? We had numerous posts here recently about, among other things, a documentary claiming that the Paines planted Oswald, i.e., got him the job, in the TSBD in order to frame him for the assassination. See Garrison's work. Salandria's work. DiEugenio's work. They all make the same claim.

I think you need to visit the conspiracy sites a bit more. They are filled with claims that the Paines setup Oswald.

Try this: https://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/search/label/The%20Assassination%20and%20Mrs.%20Paine

And this:  https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/28210-ruth-paine-on-the-assassination-mrs-paine-film-well-done-but-powerfully-awful/#comment-473654

If you want to dismiss all of these people as crackpots and oddballs, I'll agree. But if you want to say these claims are on the fringe, I won't.