Oswald's Motive

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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald's Motive
« Reply #210 on: December 14, 2022, 12:13:00 AM »
What also doesn't make sense is that Williams was on the 6th floor until roughly 12.20 / 12.25, which of course limits the time Oswald, or anybody else, had to go down several aisles away to get some boxes and thus risk being noticed.

So you think it's impossible that Oswald had already moved these particular boxes in place before Williams ever arrived up on the sixth floor?

Of course that's not impossible, but just because something isn't impossible doesn't mean it happened.

Agreed.

But you implied that "Oswald, or anybody else" couldn't have moved the boxes in place until once Williams left the sixth floor.

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« Reply #211 on: December 14, 2022, 12:14:31 AM »
Your "logic" is nothing more than 100% self serving speculation that simply doesn't make any sense.

It doesn't make sense that Oswald wanted the bigger box to sit on and the smaller Rolling Readers boxes (sitting atop one of the bigger boxes) to act as the gun rest?

You're not very open-minded.

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« Reply #212 on: December 14, 2022, 12:19:08 AM »
Second, the method used in lifting the prints tells you that the prints were fairly recent (as opposed to prints being left on the boxes say a week earlier).

I am aware of that, Bill. Oswald could have touched those boxes earlier that morning or the day before. Having said that, the fact that prints on those boxes don't hold long doesn't explain why there wasn't a single print identified for all the TSBD employees [somebody build the sniper's nest, right?] and/or the law enforcement officers who were in and around the sniper's nest before Fritz, Day and Studebaker arrived. There are photos showing those men climbing all over stacks of boxes but in and around the sniper's nest they left not a single print, really?

May I see photos of law enforcement personnel climbing all over stacks of boxes in the sniper's nest?

I didn't say that they were climinng over stacks of boxes "in the sniper's nest". Nice try, though...

Yes, you kinda did.

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« Reply #213 on: December 14, 2022, 12:22:29 AM »
Agreed.

But you implied that "Oswald, or anybody else" couldn't have moved the boxes in place until once Williams left the sixth floor.

I didn't imply anything. I just said that to me it doesn't make sense. That's all

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« Reply #214 on: December 14, 2022, 12:23:22 AM »
I didn't imply anything. I just said that to me it doesn't make sense. That's all

Deny all you wish, but you implied it.

Online Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #215 on: December 14, 2022, 12:27:41 AM »
It doesn't make sense that Oswald wanted the bigger box to sit on and the smaller Rolling Readers boxes (sitting atop one of the bigger boxes) to act as the gun rest?

You're not very open-minded.

It doesn't make sense that Oswald wanted the bigger box to sit on and the smaller Rolling Readers boxes (sitting atop one of the bigger boxes) to act as the gun rest?

No, what doesn't make sense to me is that the assassin would go look for smaller boxes than those already near the sniper's nest. He wasn't decorating the place, was he now?

You're not very open-minded.

That's only true when you consider anybody who doesn't instantly agree with you as not having an open-mind. How about your own open-mindedness?


Yes, you kinda did.


If you say so...  :D

Deny all you wish, but you implied it.

Again, if you say so.... it must be so, right?   :D

But seriously, as I am the one who wrote it, I'm probably the best person who knows what I was saying, don't you think? It's not really my problem if you don't understand it or if you want to make something out of nothing.
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Offline Bill Brown

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Re: Oswald's Motive
« Reply #216 on: December 14, 2022, 01:34:58 AM »
Look.

Oswald walked three whole aisles (crazy, I know) to get two of the smaller Rolling Readers boxes to use as the gun rest in the sniper's nest.  Oswald was the only employee who's prints were on those boxes and the prints were recent.  The floor laying crew would have no reason to move those boxes since they were not over on the west end of the floor (like they did with the bigger boxes containing books).  The two Rolling Readers boxes, being three aisles away from the sniper's nest, had no business in the sniper's nest other than to be used as a gun rest.

Whoever shot from up there most likely had the boxes in place before Bonnie Ray Williams arrived.  So the point that Williams was up there until 12:20 or 12:25 (which itself is debatable) and therefore created an extra risk for the shooter to move boxes around AFTER Williams left, is most likely invalid.

There is no photographic evidence of law enforcement personnel climbing all over boxes in the sniper's nest, despite what has been claimed here in this thread.