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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #98 on: May 20, 2018, 02:34:06 AM »

And lastly, why do you assume that an edited copy of the Z film is authentic? Where is the original film and why has the FBI withheld it for 50+ years?

The FBI has never withheld it.

Where is the Zapruder Film? Can I get a copy of it?

The original Zapruder film is part of the Kennedy Collection and is in the custody of the Motion Picture Sound and Video staff, at the National Archives at College Park. NARA may make a single fair-use copy of the film and sell it to any researcher. However, the copyright for the film is owned by the Sixth Floor Museum  in Dallas Texas. If a researcher chooses to publish the film in any way, he or she will need to obtain permission from the copyright holders.


https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/faqs#film
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Zapruder Film Timeline

https://www.jfk.org/the-collections/abraham-zapruder-film/abraham-zapruder-film-timeline/
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Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #99 on: May 20, 2018, 02:41:03 AM »


A fragmenting bullet caused JFK's head to explode? Doubt it.


Can you name a single ballistic expert who also doubts it?




Sez you. Describe the physics behind your claim.


Read the ?The JFK Myths? by Larry Sturdivan. Or, if there is another book on the JFK assassination by a ballistic expert, let?s here about it. This book covers a good deal of science about ballistics.




Absolutely, this was possible in 1963. How do you think they got you to believe the Wizard of Oz was real? They used an optical printer for all the FX, which is still in use today. Surely the FBI recruited a movie pro to edit the Z film, but not necessarily. They only needed to edit the Z film at the Turkey Shoot Point, otherwise, the Orville-Nix film was the only other film that needed to match the Z film, and only to address the limo nearly stopping.


The movie ?The Wizard of Oz? took an object, and modified in all the frames, so that even a 3-D look at two different frames would not reveal the modification?

How would they know they only need to modify the Zapruder film and the Orville-Nix film. How would this all-knowing conspiracy know about all the films and photographs that may have been taken?

Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #100 on: May 20, 2018, 02:49:24 AM »
The FBI has never withheld it.

Where is the Zapruder Film? Can I get a copy of it?

The original Zapruder film is part of the Kennedy Collection and is in the custody of the Motion Picture Sound and Video staff, at the National Archives at College Park. NARA may make a single fair-use copy of the film and sell it to any researcher. However, the copyright for the film is owned by the Sixth Floor Museum  in Dallas Texas. If a researcher chooses to publish the film in any way, he or she will need to obtain permission from the copyright holders.


https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/faqs#film
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Zapruder Film Timeline

https://www.jfk.org/the-collections/abraham-zapruder-film/abraham-zapruder-film-timeline/
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Horsesh*t. This guy examined a copy, like everyone else. How do they explain the blatant splice over frames 154 to 158? Did the Magic Bullet edit the film? Why didn't this "expert" mention that the film had been edited? There is another splice in the film as well. Splice=Edit. Allow me to examine the original Z film and I'll either prove this was a conspiracy or I'll go away.


Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #101 on: May 20, 2018, 03:00:02 AM »
Horsesh*t. This guy examined a copy, like everyone else. How do they explain the blatant splice over frames 154 to 158? Did the Magic Bullet edit the film? Why didn't this "expert" mention that the film had been edited? There is another splice in the film as well. Splice=Edit. Allow me to examine the original Z film and I'll either prove this was a conspiracy or I'll go away.



Did you fall out of the stupid tree or what? He examined the original film as well as two first generation copies.

http://www.jfk-info.com/zreport.htm

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #102 on: May 20, 2018, 03:12:05 AM »
Did you fall out of the stupid tree or what? He examined the original film as well as two first generation copies.

http://www.jfk-info.com/zreport.htm

How gullible are you anyway? He did NOT examine the original film or he would have noted the splices, which he didn't. Nice try tho.
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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #103 on: May 20, 2018, 03:13:29 AM »
Can you name a single ballistic expert who also doubts it?
I can't name any ballistic expert that has commented on it. WTF do they know that we don't?

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Read the ?The JFK Myths? by Larry Sturdivan. Or, if there is another book on the JFK assassination by a ballistic expert, let?s here about it. This book covers a good deal of science about ballistics.
Is Larry a ballistics expert?

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The movie ?The Wizard of Oz? took an object, and modified in all the frames, so that even a 3-D look at two different frames would not reveal the modification?
Correct. Back in 63 you could not tell which frames had been edited with an optical printer because you were examining a copy. Dark room editing back then was even more imperceptible than digital editing is now.

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How would they know they only need to modify the Zapruder film and the Orville-Nix film. How would this all-knowing conspiracy know about all the films and photographs that may have been taken?
Who knows what other films/photos they confiscated? That was the whole purpose of the FBI in the coup. They were the "cleaners".
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
« Reply #104 on: May 20, 2018, 05:24:03 AM »
  That was the whole purpose of the FBI in the coup. They were the "cleaners".
They still are.
Offhand, I see nothing sinister or egregious even if the limo driver did hit the brakes.
If I was driving into what I thought was an ambush, I would probably be inclined to not proceed any further into the onslaught... it's simply a natural reaction.
If the film was doctored...it was [of course] to cover their backsides.