Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !

[Steve Barber]

Since you didn't answer the last post, I doubt you will this But who has denied or ignored this?

 Few people even know about the interview with White that she did. So many times when I have posted the link or quote her, the attacks begin.  Look at what RayMitcham said earlier in this thread.  They try to twist it like a pretzel into something it isn't. Don't expect me to give you a list of names of people who have ignored it.   

[Steve Barber]

 Exactly.  And believe it or not, one conspiracy nutter claimed that Governor Connally had a gun strapped to his ankle and fired the fatal shot, blowing out the back of JFK's head. 

 As enormous as some of these people describe the wound as being, which is "the whole back of his head blown off", there is no way a shot from the knoll could do that without blowing part of the left hemisphere of the brain out,

 


Especially when your friends draw diagrams of the shot coming in front of where the fence of the knoll even begins. There is always the sewer drain as well

 Oh please. The sewer drain theory is ludicrous and so is the knoll shot.

[Matt Grantham]

Few people even know about the interview with White that she did. So many times when I have posted the link or quote her, the attacks begin.  Look at what RayMitcham said earlier in this thread.  They try to twist it like a pretzel into something it isn't. Don't expect me to give you a list of names of people who have ignored it.

 No need to quote people correctly Carry on

[Ray Mitcham]

  Congratulations, Mitcham.  You have just won the "Stupid Comment Of The Day" award! I didn't say his head was in her "lap"

Where did I say you did, Barber?

and clearly, it wasn't in her lap or she would have been saturated with blood on the front of her dress which she isn't.  Since you rely so much on the Parkland doctors, then why don't red up on how much blood was all over them and the floor. It came from the head wound.  Her gloves were "caked" with blood which means that she was holding his head in her hands.  Trying to keep the top of his dead down means trying to keep the top of his head and trying to "keep it in" means trying to keep the brain inside the wound.  You people come up with some real crap.

Quote by Barber.
"and clearly, it wasn't in her lap or she would have been saturated with blood on the front of her dress which she isn't"

Jackie Kennedy to the W.C."

"And then he sort of did this [indicating], put his hand to his forehead and fell in my lap.
And then I just remember falling on him and saying, "Oh, no, no, no," I mean, "Oh, my God, they have shot my husband." And "I love you, Jack," I remember I was shouting. And just being down in the car with his head in my lap. And it just seemed an eternity."

[Royell Storing]

I did read it, Royell. I didn't say that they were administering medical id to the president while the coat was over his head.  How could she have seen a "massive head wound" when he is lying face up on the gurney?  The one and any way anyone could have seen the back of the head was to lift his head. Period.  We can argue about where the head wound was until the world ends, but nothing can change A. The words spoken to Theodore White by Mrs. Kennedy within 7 days of her husbands murder, where she gives a graphic description of where the head wound was and how she was trying to hold the TOP of his head down, and "maybe I could keep it in"--meaning the brain.  If she would have been trying to hold the back of his head on, she would have said "I was trying to keep the back of his head on", but she didn't.  And B. One witness, Chuck Brehm said he saw the top of the head "come off".  The autopsy photos of the top of the head reveal a large hole in top of the head.  The Zapruder film also reveals a large hole on top of the head and a large flap of skull turned inside out hanging in front of the ear, and this flap connects to the top of the skull, not the rear.    You film alterationists insist the film is fake, but that's your problem.   You also call Zapruder, Sitzman, the Newman's and Bobby Hargis either liars or mistaken in their description of what they saw when seeing the effects of the fatal shot to the head. which happened right in front of them.

         Your electing to use the eyewitness accounts of both Sitzman and Mr & Mrs Newman defeats your purpose. BOTH Sitzman and The Newman's claim that they saw JFK "Hit" with a shot between "The eye and the ear". Their eyewitness accounts corroborate a Frontal/Side shot = Conspiracy by definition.

[Joe Elliott]

         Your electing to use the eyewitness accounts of both Ms. Sitzman and Mr & Mrs Newman defeats your purpose. BOTH Sitzman and The Newman's claim that they saw JFK "Hit" with a shot between "The eye and the ear". Their eyewitness accounts corroborate a Frontal/Side shot = Conspiracy by definition.

Yes, but how could Sitzman and Mr. and Mr. Newman tell of the wound between ?the eye and the ear? was an entrance wound (which they assumed it was) or an exit wound or an ?explosive wound? (which is what it really was)?

And, of course, it should be noted that what Ms. Sitzman, Mr. Newman and Mrs. Newman?s memory supports the Warren Commissions? conclusions, the HSCA conclusions, the autopsy doctor?s memories, the X-rays, the autopsy photographs and the dozens and dozens of frames of the Zapruder film show, a large wound on the right side of the head, extending well forward of the head, and fairly far back, and pretty high up.

But not covering ?the back of the head? as the CTers allege that all the Parkland witnesses remember.

[Gary Craig]

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=625#relPageId=4&tab=page
ARRB MD 44 - Sibert and O'Neill Report on the Autopsy (11/26/63)--"Gemberling Version"