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Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !
Jack Trojan:
--- Quote from: Joe Elliott on May 14, 2018, 05:13:23 AM ---
Not when they have higher priority tasks.
** Continuing checking for breathing.
** Continuing checking for heartbeats.
** Hooking up patient for emergency blood transfusion.
** Hooking up patient and delivering medicine through a needle.
Could not use the usual methods of controlling bleeding like direct pressure or a tourniquet because most of the bleeding was from the brain. Taking time to ?examine? this wound won?t give them any insights on how to stop the bleeding, or keep the heart beating, or keep the breathing going.
All of which was over in about ten minutes.
Once a patient is stabilized, then, yes, the wounds should be carefully examined.
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Are you claiming that JFK was still alive when they brought him to Bethesda? The doctor never would have given him a tracheotomy if he was still alive. It would have killed him.
Matt Grantham:
--- Quote from: Joe Elliott on May 14, 2018, 05:13:23 AM ---
Not when they have higher priority tasks.
** Continuing checking for breathing.
** Continuing checking for heartbeats.
** Hooking up patient for emergency blood transfusion.
** Hooking up patient and delivering medicine through a needle.
Could not use the usual methods of controlling bleeding like direct pressure or a tourniquet because most of the bleeding was from the brain. Taking time to ?examine? this wound won?t give them any insights on how to stop the bleeding, or keep the heart beating, or keep the breathing going.
All of which was over in about ten minutes.
Once a patient is stabilized, then, yes, the wounds should be carefully examined.
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False dichotomy If you are treating a patients wound you have to examine it to see what the problem is It may be that the missed some smaller wounds further up on the head, but that is not the point here
Mitch Todd:
--- Quote from: Matt Grantham on May 14, 2018, 02:35:49 PM --- False dichotomy If you are treating a patients wound you have to examine it to see what the problem is It may be that the missed some smaller wounds further up on the head, but that is not the point here
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About 25-30 years ago, I pestered any number of medical pros, from paramedics to physicians, about this. They were unanimous that trauma care is applied in strict "ABC" fashion. That is, Airway first, then Breathing, then Circulation. Anything else comes after those three, since there's no point in trying to fix anything else if the patient is neither able to breathe nor pumping blood. As one doctor I asked put it, "On the hierarchy of things medically wrong with JFK at that time, the hole in his head was well down on the list." It may seem strange, until you think about it.
BTW, of the medical people I've talked to, they thought that Carrico, would have had the most careful look at the wound since he was first physician on the scene, and was responsible for the initial examination/triage.
Matt Grantham:
--- Quote from: Mitch Todd on May 15, 2018, 12:20:21 AM ---About 25-30 years ago, I pestered any number of medical pros, from paramedics to physicians, about this. They were unanimous that trauma care is applied in strict "ABC" fashion. That is, Airway first, then Breathing, then Circulation. Anything else comes after those three, since there's no point in trying to fix anything else if the patient is neither able to breathe nor pumping blood. As one doctor I asked put it, "On the hierarchy of things medically wrong with JFK at that time, the hole in his head was well down on the list." It may seem strange, until you think about it.
BTW, of the medical people I've talked to, they thought that Carrico, would have had the most careful look at the wound since he was first physician on the scene, and was responsible for the initial examination/triage.
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Sorry if I find this whole consideration absurd We are not talking about some fine details of the nature of the wound, we are simply talking about the general location of a very large wound It is not a matter of an inch or two discrepancy it is a matter of wound halfway across his skull You actually used the 'E' word, I imagine Joe will object to that
John Iacoletti:
--- Quote from: Steve Barber on May 13, 2018, 08:09:51 PM ---The Harper fragment and the David Burris fragment were both found several yards AHEAD of where the limousine was located at the time of the fatal shot
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Any idea how these ended on the South side of Elm if it was the right side of Kennedy's head that was blown out?
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