Was the carcano, CE 139, painted black?

[Jerry Freeman]

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[Walt Cakebread]

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ARE THESE TWO PHOTOS OF A CARCANO THE SAME RIFLE  ??

[Walt Cakebread]

Yes, about a dozen times.

What was the explanation for the discrepancy between the Alyea film which shows Lt Day reaching out and picking up the rifle (which is lying on it's side )  by the leather sling and the official DPD in situ  photo which shows the rifle NOT lying on the floor but jammed upright between boxes.

[Walt Cakebread]

Question for you Walt: If you try to make the rifle stand up by itself (on a flat surface like a floor) with the bottom (flat) part of the magazine as partially supporting the rifle, will it stay upright without any additional support?

If you try to make the rifle stand up by itself (on a flat surface like a floor) with the bottom (flat) part of the magazine as partially supporting the rifle, will it stay upright without any additional support?

Yes, my carcano will stand upright but my rifle does not have a two pound scope mounted off to the left side.

[Charles Collins]

If you try to make the rifle stand up by itself (on a flat surface like a floor) with the bottom (flat) part of the magazine as partially supporting the rifle, will it stay upright without any additional support?

Yes, my carcano will stand upright but my rifle does not have a two pound scope mounted off to the left side.

Do you have an accurate weight of your rifle (no scope)?


Edit: I believe that Robert Frazier testified that the rifle and scope weighed 8-pounds. Wikipedia lists that model rifle as weighing 7.5-pounds. Therefore the scope weighs 1/2-pound. Not two pounds as you claim.

[Walt Cakebread]

Do you have an accurate weight of your rifle (no scope)?


Edit: I believe that Robert Frazier testified that the rifle and scope weighed 8-pounds. Wikipedia lists that model rifle as weighing 7.5-pounds. Therefore the scope weighs 1/2-pound. Not two pounds as you claim.

The weight of the scope isn't critical.....I believe that the scope mounted on the left would cause the rifle to topple to the left if you tried to balance the rifle on it's magazine.   When i set my carcano on the floor it will balance on the magazine but it is a delicate balance.   A bit of wind from the side would probably cause it to fall over on it's side.

[Walt Cakebread]

ARE THESE TWO PHOTOS OF A CARCANO THE SAME RIFLE  ??

These photos are of two different carcanos....   Can someone offer an explanation?