A Rock Solid Alibi.....

[Bill Chapman]

There's no evidence that somebody else shot Kennedy.

[Charles Collins]

That’s a silly analogy, given that there’s no “diagnosis” involved here. The doctor, the nurse, the receptionist, and the building janitor would all be just as capable of seeing that a patient left her purse in the exam room.

I don’t “somehow ‘know’” they screwed up the crime scenes and the evidence handling. They did screw them up. Crime scenes weren’t secured. Things were moved around or picked up before photos were taken. Prints weren’t photographed and covered. Probable cause wasn’t followed for searches and arrests. Chains of custody were not maintained. Evidence was not properly secured and stored. Lineups were egregiously unfair and biased. Relevant reports were either never written or written as an afterthought long after the events. Etc, etc, etc.

That’s not correct. They all talked about the lunch bag and the chicken bones in the context of what they saw where the shells were found or on top of boxes by the SE window.

That’s true, but it still doesn’t exonerate anybody. There’s just no evidence whatsoever that LHO was “hiding there”.

That’s a silly analogy, given that there’s no “diagnosis” involved here. The doctor, the nurse, the receptionist, and the building janitor would all be just as capable of seeing that a patient left her purse in the exam room.


The analogy is a perfectly fine one to demonstrate your ridiculous statement that:

I don’t see what difference it makes, given that the guys who allegedly *did* have crime scene experience completely screwed up the crime scenes and the evidence handling.

In other words, if it makes no difference to you, then apply that logic to yourself getting a diagnosis at your next trip to the doctor’s office. If you cannot see the difference it makes and choose to believe your interpretations of the general descriptions of the officers who were not there to document the location of the lunch remains over the photographs and descriptions of the trained crime scene investigators, then you should have no problem accepting the doctor’s receptionist’s “he looks like he doesn’t feel good” diagnosis.


That’s not correct. They all talked about the lunch bag and the chicken bones in the context of what they saw where the shells were found or on top of boxes by the SE window.

Again there were no specific location(s) given.



There’s just no evidence whatsoever that LHO was “hiding there”.


Mr. BELIN - Now what conversation did you and Ronald Fischer have about this man, if anything? Do you remember what he said?
Mr. EDWARDS - I made a statement to Ronny that I wondered who he was hiding from since he was up there crowded in among the boxes, in a joking manner.


Mr. FISCHER - The man held my attention for 10 or 15 seconds, because he appeared uncomfortable for one, and, secondly, he wasn't watching-uh---he didn't look like he was watching for the parade. He looked like he was looking down toward the Trinity River and the triple underpass down at the end-toward the end of Elm Street. And--uh--all the time I watched him, he never moved his head, he never-he never moved anything. Just was there transfixed.

[John Iacoletti]

Right? And nice double standard. What crime scene training did Edwards and Fischer have?

[Charles Collins]

Right? And nice double standard. What crime scene training did Edwards and Fischer have?

WTF are you trying to say?   

[Martin Weidmann]

WTF are you trying to say?   

This kind of BS and he gets upset when he doesn't get any respect..... Amazing   

[Walt Cakebread]

This kind of BS and he gets upset when he doesn't get any respect..... Amazing   

Several months ago I debated Mr Collins about the feasibility of an adult man putting an identifiable palm print on a carcano barrel.   I presented dimensions that revealed that it would have been impossible for Lee Oswald to deposit an identifiable print on that 5/8 " diameter barrel....and any rational person would have acknowledged the utter impossibility ....but Mr Collins just kept arguing and presenting utter nonsense, and making a damned fool of himself.  I now have little respect for Mr Collins.....   

[Walt Cakebread]

If that's all you took away from the "debate", you weren't comprehending too well.

What factual information did Mr Collins present that I should have accepted?