A Rock Solid Alibi.....

[Bill Chapman]

CONCLUSION: SMIRKY
 

[Walt Cakebread]

Okay, I found out where this area is located by reading the WC testimony of Troy Eugene West. It is about the middle of the west wall of the first floor. It is where the wrapping machine that West used to wrap the packages is located.

So, I have another question for anyone who subscribes to the idea that LHO was in the domino room when the shots were fired.

In order to get to the second floor break room where Truly and Baker encountered him, LHO would have had to leave the domino room, and walk across the first floor to the stairs. This would have had to occur immediately after the shots were fired in order for the timing to work out. However, both Eddie Piper and Troy Eugene West were on the first floor, but neither one saw LHO do this trek across the first floor at that time. West was at his work station, and Piper was on his way toward West’s work station. Is there some legitimate reason why these two men wouldn’t have seen LHO walking across the first floor at this time? Just asking…

Simply because neither Piper nor West recalled seeing Lee Oswald walk across the 1st floor from the Domino room to the stairs doesn't preclude the fact that Lee did walk from the Domino room to the stairs.... It's entirely possible that Lee could have walked across the room and the sounds of the gunshots distracted Piper and West and the  the routine event of a person walking across the room did not enter their memory banks.

[Martin Weidmann]

Okay, I found out where this area is located by reading the WC testimony of Troy Eugene West. It is about the middle of the west wall of the first floor. It is where the wrapping machine that West used to wrap the packages is located.

So, I have another question for anyone who subscribes to the idea that LHO was in the domino room when the shots were fired.

In order to get to the second floor break room where Truly and Baker encountered him, LHO would have had to leave the domino room, and walk across the first floor to the stairs. This would have had to occur immediately after the shots were fired in order for the timing to work out. However, both Eddie Piper and Troy Eugene West were on the first floor, but neither one saw LHO do this trek across the first floor at that time. West was at his work station, and Piper was on his way toward West’s work station. Is there some legitimate reason why these two men wouldn’t have seen LHO walking across the first floor at this time? Just asking…

Is there some legitimate reason why these two men wouldn’t have seen LHO walking across the first floor at this time?

The distance between the Domino room and the stairs isn't all that far and it would not have taken long to walk from one side to the other. Piper and West were some distance away and photographs of the first floor show wrapping tables and what else between them and the elevators. West said he saw nobody, which means he also did not see Adams and Styles and/or Lovelady and Shelley (if they entered when the WC claimed they did). Perhaps they simply were not paying attention to what was going on near the elevators.

[Walt Cakebread]

Yet Garner appears to immediately lost interest in the still-unfolding aftermath outside and was eye-locked on the backstairs. Piper and West, who didn't see as much of the assassination as Garner, aren't supposed to see towards the backstairs.

So you believe that Piper and West would have had to have remembered  seeing Lee Oswald walk across the back of the room?   Why could they not have forgot seeing him?

[Martin Weidmann]

Yet Garner appears to immediately lost interest in the still-unfolding aftermath outside and was eye-locked on the backstairs. Piper and West, who didn't see as much of the assassination as Garner, aren't supposed to see towards the backstairs.

Yet Garner appears to immediately lost interest in the still-unfolding aftermath outside

Who said she lost interest? She, just like most people at the time, didn't know exactly what was going on. Garner followed Adams and Styles and stopped near the stairs. From there she had a perfect view across the railway yard. Her close proximity to the stairs made it impossible for anybody to cross the landing from one door to the next without making a sound on the wooden floor and thus draw attention to themselves.

West testified that he didn't have a clue there was something going on. He heard no shots and the first time he realized something had happened was when he saw Baker and Truly run to the elevators. Until that moment Piper and West had no reason to look towards the elevators.

Mr. WEST - Well, I had just, after I made coffee, I just had started to eat my lunch because I was a little hungry - I didn't anything that morning before I went to work - and I had started to eat my lunch.
But before I got through, well, all of this was, I mean, the police and things was coming in, and I was just spellbound. I just didn't know what was the matter. So I didn't get through eating. I had to eat about half my lunch, and that is all.
Mr. BELIN - Did you hear any shots fired?
Mr. WEST - I didn't hear a one. Didn't hear a one.

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Mr. BELIN - Who was the first person you saw on the first floor after you - while you were eating your lunch? Someone came in the building?
Mr. WEST - Yes; before I got through. The officers and things were coming in the front door.
Mr. BELIN - Who was the first person or persons that you saw coming through there while you were eating your lunch?
Mr. WEST - Well, that was the police.

[Charles Collins]

Simply because neither Piper nor West recalled seeing Lee Oswald walk across the 1st floor from the Domino room to the stairs doesn't preclude the fact that Lee did walk from the Domino room to the stairs.... It's entirely possible that Lee could have walked across the room and the sounds of the gunshots distracted Piper and West and the  the routine event of a person walking across the room did not enter their memory banks.

West didn’t hear the gunshots, so your theory doesn’t apply to him.

What I am thinking is that the first floor is an open area for the most part. I don’t remember seeing any photos that show for sure that there is a clear view from West’s workstation area to the path that one would take from the domino room to the stairs. Unless there was some physical barrier to block that view, that I am not aware of, I think that they would have had a clear view. I don’t have a problem saying that there is a possibility that both of them might not have noticed. But if you believe that that is possible, then you really should admit that Dorothy Garner could have not noticed too. Also, BRW could have not noticed someone hidden and being as quiet as a mouse in the sniper’s nest…

[Martin Weidmann]

West didn’t hear the gunshots, so your theory doesn’t apply to him.

What I am thinking is that the first floor is an open area for the most part. I don’t remember seeing any photos that show for sure that there is a clear view from West’s workstation area to the path that one would take from the domino room to the stairs. Unless there was some physical barrier to block that view, that I am not aware of, I think that they would have had a clear view. I don’t have a problem saying that there is a possibility that both of them might not have noticed. But if you believe that that is possible, then you really should admit that Dorothy Garner could have not noticed too. Also, BRW could have not noticed someone hidden and being as quiet as a mouse in the sniper’s nest…

I don’t have a problem saying that there is a possibility that both of them might not have noticed. But if you believe that that is possible, then you really should admit that Dorothy Garner could have not noticed too.

Apples and oranges.

Garner was standing directly next to the stairs. West and Piper were some distance away and unaware something was going on until police started to come into the building.

It's utterly dishonest to compare the two situations as if they were equal. West and Piper also did not notice Jarman and Norman as well as Adams and Styles and we know for a fact all four were in fact in the same area where Oswald would have walked.