The Position of the Bolt on the MC

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #455 on: September 21, 2022, 06:16:41 PM »
So you do now agree the still picture I posted was taken from the original Tom Alyea footage but you now believe the footage was tampered with to show the rifle in the upright position? Is that correct?

At the 0:22 point of the video, the pillar can be seen BEHIND Fritz.....

Of course it can be seen behind Fritz!
This is exactly where we would expect it to be seen if Studebaker's plat is correct.



Red "A" is roughly Alyea's position
Red F is roughly Fritz's position



The east side of the stairs is 4 feet from the west wall   ....Draw a line from that east stairway wall to the rifle ....the butt of the rifle is about 4 feet from the east   WEST wall and 15' 4" from the north wall ..... The pillar is 13 feet from the west wall and 13 feet from the north wall.   

The e/w row of boxes that formed the aisle at the top of the stairs   was 13 feet from the north wall.... Which means that Lee would have had to reach across 2 feet four inches and down about 18 inches to insert the rifle into a gap that he could not see  between
the boxes.....
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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #456 on: September 21, 2022, 06:48:00 PM »
So you do now agree the still picture I posted was taken from the original Tom Alyea footage but you now believe the footage was tampered with to show the rifle in the upright position? Is that correct?

At the 0:22 point of the video, the pillar can be seen BEHIND Fritz.....

Of course it can be seen behind Fritz!
This is exactly where we would expect it to be seen if Studebaker's plat is correct.



Red "A" is roughly Alyea's position
Red F is roughly Fritz's position

So you do now agree the still picture I posted was taken from the original Tom Alyea footage but you now believe the footage was tampered with to show the rifle in the upright position? Is that correct?

Yes, But it's no sudden revelation.....  I've always believed the Tom Alyea footage.... Which shows detective Day reaching out to pick up the rifle that is lying on it's side.....   The film from the official propaganda channel ( sometimes called he History channel ) has CE 514 inserted into the Alyea film.

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #457 on: September 21, 2022, 06:50:58 PM »
This is the Sixth Floor Museum’s glassed-in display showing the area of the hidden rifle. I can’t say how accurate the boxes are placed, and partially obscured in the frame. I will pay more attention to this display at my next chance.
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edit - this photo was taken 12:34pm last November 22 after the Fagin-Frazier chat.
 


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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #458 on: September 21, 2022, 07:01:59 PM »
This is the Sixth Floor Museum’s glassed-in display showing the area of the hidden rifle. I can’t say how accurate the boxes are placed, and partially obscured in the frame. I will pay more attention to this display at my next chance.
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Thank you James.... The window would have to be the window in the west wall .....  But  The boxes don't seem to be stacked at all like they were when the rifle was found by Weitzman and Boone.

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #459 on: September 22, 2022, 12:07:09 AM »
Thank you James.... The window would have to be the window in the west wall .....  But  The boxes don't seem to be stacked at all like they were when the rifle was found by Weitzman and Boone.

I have to agree Walt, I can't make any sense of the boxes as they are positioned in the museum.
Where was the rifle hidden?

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #460 on: September 22, 2022, 02:32:44 PM »
I have to agree Walt, I can't make any sense of the boxes as they are positioned in the museum.
Where was the rifle hidden?

I believe that the dark area at the extreme right of the photo is the stairway wall  going down to the fifth floor....

There is a dark haired woman who is wearing a COVID mask facing east at the left side  ( east side) of the photo ....

I wonder why they didn't place the boxes as they were when Weitzman and Boone found the rifle ????

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #461 on: September 22, 2022, 04:47:15 PM »
So you do now agree the still picture I posted was taken from the original Tom Alyea footage but you now believe the footage was tampered with to show the rifle in the upright position? Is that correct?

At the 0:22 point of the video, the pillar can be seen BEHIND Fritz.....

Of course it can be seen behind Fritz!
This is exactly where we would expect it to be seen if Studebaker's plat is correct.



Red "A" is roughly Alyea's position
Red F is roughly Fritz's position



Look at CE 515   (Page 39 of this thread)  ......And try to correlate this Studebaker plat with the spot where the arrow indicates the rifle was found.   

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