The Position of the Bolt on the MC

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2022, 05:10:05 PM »
What would be the intention of putting the clip back in and dropping a round into the chamber?

Good question, Jim....  Of course I can only speculate, since I'm not the person who performed the action.....

I would guess that the person wanted to lend realism ( believable and ready acceptance) that the rifle had just been fired.

I'll bet the farm that the carcano was NOT fired that day....  The three spent shells had been fired previously at some other location, and one of those spent shells has the scratch marks that were made by the elevator. Which indicates that that spent shell was the last round in the clip at the time that shell was fired.

 

Offline Jim Hawthorn

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #43 on: July 22, 2022, 06:21:50 PM »
Good question, Jim....  Of course I can only speculate, since I'm not the person who performed the action.....

I would guess that the person wanted to lend realism ( believable and ready acceptance) that the rifle had just been fired.

I'll bet the farm that the carcano was NOT fired that day....  The three spent shells had been fired previously at some other location, and one of those spent shells has the scratch marks that were made by the elevator. Which indicates that that spent shell was the last round in the clip at the time that shell was fired.

OK. Time for the LNers to give their opinion about this dropped in round.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #44 on: July 22, 2022, 08:07:53 PM »
OK. Time for the LNers to give their opinion about this dropped in round.

In a nut shell .... The bolt standing in the position that is seen in the Alyea film, plus the fact that the live round has no scratch marks from being the last round in a clip is proof that the rifle was not fired that day.


Offline Richard Smith

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #45 on: July 23, 2022, 04:11:02 PM »
In a nut shell .... The bolt standing in the position that is seen in the Alyea film, plus the fact that the live round has no scratch marks from being the last round in a clip is proof that the rifle was not fired that day.

Whew!  Alert the NY Times.  Our word for today is "conclusory":  consisting of or relating to a conclusion or assertion for which no supporting evidence is offered.

Online Charles Collins

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #46 on: July 23, 2022, 04:30:12 PM »
Whew!  Alert the NY Times.  Our word for today is "conclusory":  consisting of or relating to a conclusion or assertion for which no supporting evidence is offered.

It’s apparently his middle name….   ;)

Offline Jim Hawthorn

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #47 on: July 23, 2022, 06:12:32 PM »
Whew!  Alert the NY Times.  Our word for today is "conclusory":  consisting of or relating to a conclusion or assertion for which no supporting evidence is offered.

What is your explanation for this unmarked, dropped in live round? The lone nut did nutty things?

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: The Position of the Bolt on the MC
« Reply #48 on: July 23, 2022, 06:19:24 PM »
It’s apparently his middle name….   ;)

I doubt that was intend to be a .....a compliment, But I'll accept it as such.    A person who can't CONCLUDE something that is obvious (like 2 + 2 ) is either mentally deficient, or a coward who is afraid to face the facts.

I your case Mr Collins I believe it's the former..... You simply don't understand how the carcano operates....but that's not totally your fault.    There have been ignorant people who have posted erroneous information about the carcano and some innocently ignorant folks have accepted that inaccurate information and thus they don't know what they are talking about.

I'm referring to the ability to load a single round into the chamber of a carcano by merely dropping a round into the chamber  and closing and latching the bolt....   I don't give a hoot if the guy who believes that is a "firearms expert" who is truly  knowledgeable  about hundreds of rifles.... and he bases his belief on several other bolt action rifles ...He doesn't truly know how the carcano operates.