The Position of the Bolt on the MC

[Walt Cakebread]

 Alyea's camera caught the brass clip in the magazine on film.

That’s very debatable.

The official tale also says that the clip in this rifle had a tendency to get stuck rather than dropping out.

It really isn't debatable ...because we have photos of Lt Day carrying the carcano out of the TSBD and the clip is quite visible.....So it must have been in the magazine as Day dusted the rifle for prints.

Perhaps James Hackerott can work with the Alyea film of Day dusting the carcano in looking for prints and then post one of his good photos...

[Jim Hawthorn]

If you look at the cutaway animation, it appears that the elevator contacts the cartridge in a location that is closer to the center of the cartridge.

Not so sure. The wavy extremity of the elevator arm rubs up towards the base of the cartridge (rear of centre anyway) - after all, that is but an animation. I could be onto something! There is our last bullet in the clip?

[Walt Cakebread]

Not so sure. The wavy extremity of the elevator arm rubs up towards the base of the cartridge (rear of centre anyway) - after all, that is but an animation. I could be onto something! There is our last bullet in the clip?

This isn't a picture of the clip all the way down and latched, .... or if the clip is down and latched then the clip is only about half full.....


The dent was not necessarily caused by an impact.... LOOK at the cutaway and notice that the bottom of the bottom cartridge is in contact with the elevator..... A spent shell in the bottom position could be easily dented by the elevator. when the clip is pushed down into the magazine

[John Iacoletti]

It really isn't debatable ...because we have photos of Lt Day carrying the carcano out of the TSBD and the clip is quite visible.....So it must have been in the magazine as Day dusted the rifle for prints.

Unless it just got stuck in there before they carried it out.

[Dan O'meara]

It really isn't debatable ...because we have photos of Lt Day carrying the carcano out of the TSBD and the clip is quite visible.....So it must have been in the magazine as Day dusted the rifle for prints.

Perhaps James Hackerott can work with the Alyea film and post one of his good photos...

Perhaps James Hackerott can work with the Alyea film and post one of his good photos...

Would this be like the "good photo" of the rifle found in the upright position that you still continue to deny?

[Walt Cakebread]

Unless it just got stuck in there before they carried it out.

Yes that's true....but I don't believe that Day knew enough about the carcano to know that it was a clip fed action....( many bolt action rifle were. are box magazines in which the cartridges are loaded into the magazine and no clip is needed.)

You may have seen his scribbled notes where he refers to the carcano as a LEVER ACTION rifle....The ignoramus didn't know that it was a bolt action rifle.

[Walt Cakebread]

Perhaps James Hackerott can work with the Alyea film and post one of his good photos...

Would this be like the "good photo" of the rifle found in the upright position that you still continue to deny?

Mr Omeara....Since I'm 100% certain that the DPD staged the in situ photo that shows the rifle upright and jammed between boxes, i'm sure you can visulize that they created that photo at the same time that they created the fake insitu photo.   

Although I'm not absolutely sure, I doubt that Captain fritz stood in that "hole" in the boxes before Lt Day picked up the rifle from the floor.... because many of the boxes would have had to have been moved to allow him access to that spot.   And everybody who was there and testified swore that no boxes were moved prior to Lt Day picking up the rifle.