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Online Bill Brown

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« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2022, 05:50:18 PM »
I really wished she would have sued some of these people for defamation. She would go under oath and they would have discovery - that's what they want, correct? - but they too would have to go under oath and repeat their claims and also be subjected to discovery. Imagine these silly asses under oath? Knowing they could be charged with perjury? You think they'd repeat their claims made on the internet? Or in their books?

Let's see what happens.

She said that she thinks Oliver Stone changed her name (to "Janet") for the movie out of fear of a lawsuit. That she was still a private figure and didn't have to meet that incredibly high standard that a public figure has to in order to prove they were libeled. She said that she was never contacted by Stone or any of his people but that the actress who played her did call her with a few questions.

Most of these clowns would wilt under the pressure of having to say to her face what they say about her online.

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« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2022, 05:56:12 PM »
Exactly.  She's a strong person, very intelligent.  She can definitely defend herself all on her own.  If she's up to it and can make the trip, it's looking like we'll be with her in Dallas for the 60th.  We'll see.

Fun tidbit... When we were going through the house in Irving with her, she told us a story about Lee fixing the back screen door one Saturday afternoon.  Moments later, she wanted to go out and see the back yard.  Wouldn't you know it?  The damn screen door was stuck and it took me about a minute and half to fix it so it could be opened.

Of all the folks in this case, I feel the worst for her.  Trying to do a good deed and getting caught up in something like this must be unreal.  The target of endless conspiracy kooks who think she was involved in the frame up of a presidential assassin.  That must be surreal.  Even Marina who had ample cause to be grateful to her for providing for her family immediately turned on her.  I would love to see some of the nuts here have to engage the real person instead of whatever fictionalized character they have concocted as part of their conspiracy fantasy. 

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« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2022, 06:04:12 PM »
Of all the folks in this case, I feel the worst for her.  Trying to do a good deed and getting caught up in something like this must be unreal.  The target of endless conspiracy kooks who think she was involved in the frame up of a presidential assassin.  That must be surreal.  Even Marina who had ample cause to be grateful to her for providing for her family immediately turned on her.  I would love to see some of the nuts here have to engage the real person instead of whatever fictionalized character they have concocted as part of their conspiracy fantasy.

I agree.  Same with Tippit's two remaining children.  It's all a game to the goofballs who accuse J.D. of being involved somehow and how he was supposed to silence Oswald.  They don't stop to think that we're talking about real people.  I've spent about a half hour with Brenda (J.D.'s daughter) and she pulled out her phone showing me old pics of her with her father.  She was very nice and was eager to show me the pics.  This is a real woman.  That was her father.  It's a shame that she's even aware that some dumb asses out there say such things about her Dad; a police officer who died in the line of duty.

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« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2022, 06:04:15 PM »
Of all the folks in this case, I feel the worst for her.  Trying to do a good deed and getting caught up in something like this must be unreal.  The target of endless conspiracy kooks who think she was involved in the frame up of a presidential assassin.  That must be surreal.  Even Marina who had ample cause to be grateful to her for providing for her family immediately turned on her.  I would love to see some of the nuts here have to engage the real person instead of whatever fictionalized character they have concocted as part of their conspiracy fantasy.
We can say this about a lot of people that are smeared and defamed; no not LBJ or Hoover or Dulles or historic figures. They could defend themselves and we are free, for better or worse, to accuse them of crimes. It comes with the power they wielded.

It's the ordinary people that they attack that irritates me. These people are not around to defend themselves, to defend their names. They were just caught up in all of those terrible events and were overwhelmed by them.

But no, let's attack them anyway. Day after day, for years this is what is done. There are a lot of decent, honest conspiracy believers who are sincere if not wrong (in my view). But not all of them are like that. The followers of Garrison - the Oliver Stones and his adherents (who I don't even want to name). These are awful, awful people. If it was proven that Ruth had nothing to do with the assassination do you think they would apologize? With sincerity? Heck no, they'd just move on to another person.

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« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2022, 06:06:19 PM »
We can say this about a lot of people that are smeared and defamed; no not LBJ or Hoover or Dulles or historic figures. They could defend themselves and we are free, for better or worse, to accuse them of crimes. It comes with the power they wielded.

It's the ordinary people that they attack that irritates me. These people are not around to defend themselves, to defend their names. They were just caught up in all of those terrible events and were overwhelmed by them.

But no, let's attack them anyway. Day after day, for years this is what is done. There are a lot of decent, honest conspiracy believers who are sincere if not wrong (in my view). But not all of them are like that. The followers of Garrison - the Oliver Stones and his adherents (who I don't even want to name). These are awful, awful people. If it was proven that Ruth had nothing to do with the assassination do you think they would apologize? With sincerity? Heck no, they'd just move on to another person.


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If it was proven that Ruth had nothing to do with the assassination do you think they would apologize? With sincerity? Heck no, they'd just move on to another person.

Agreed.

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« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2022, 08:18:31 PM »
Oswald's daughters are also real women.

Yet there no end to what you and the Paine bitch will accuse their father of.

Hypocrite.

So angry.  I'm sure Oswald's daughters have had a difficult life bearing his murderous legacy.  That is unfortunate, but solely and completely the fault of LHO.  I gather that they don't hold him in much esteem.

June Oswald:

I know that in my life, Lee wasn't a good man. He wasn't much of a husband, he wasn't much of a father. He beat my mother. There were times when we didn't have milk to drink. We lived in poor housing, or were taken in by others. So if I'm able to be detached or seem cold and unemotional about it, it's because I look at Lee in those terms.

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« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2022, 08:28:24 PM »
So angry.  I'm sure Oswald's daughters have had a difficult life bearing his murderous legacy.  That is unfortunate, but solely and completely the fault of LHO.  I gather that they don't hold him in much esteem.

June Oswald:

I know that in my life, Lee wasn't a good man. He wasn't much of a husband, he wasn't much of a father. He beat my mother. There were times when we didn't have milk to drink. We lived in poor housing, or were taken in by others. So if I'm able to be detached or seem cold and unemotional about it, it's because I look at Lee in those terms.
This is where they say June was/is CIA too.

One side says: Lee Oswald, based on evidence by multiple investigations over decades, killed JFK and Tippit.

The other side says: Oswald was innocent. He was framed. Ruth Paine and Michael Paine conspired to kill JFK. And Markham and Brennan and Calloway and Roberts and on and on....a cast of dozens if not more all lied/conspired in the framing of Oswald. Based on no investigation whatsoever.

Which side wants to seize the high ground here?