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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2022, 11:58:40 PM »
Why? Why would LHO write this note to HLH [and make sure it was dated]?
The note does tend to incriminate Oswald for a planned crime that he was never aware of.
If JC "wanted us to know that Hunt was in contact with Oswald" then why wait for years to present it?
Withholding evidence is a crime.
Where is that original note? How would Hunt and Oswald ever have met?
Why would Oswald use his real name instead of signing the note with the alleged alias...A J Hidell?
According to the timeline... https://www.jfk-assassination.net/parnell/chrono.htm
Perhaps Tommy Graves was right...[A Soviet KGB hoax] Or was it some kind of deep state hoax to jerk us all around?

Why? Why would LHO write this note to HLH [and make sure it was dated]?

Make sure it was dated?.... Isn't it common practice to put the date at the top of a letter?...

The note does tend to incriminate Oswald for a planned crime that he was never aware of.

You're putting the mule behind the plow....  You know that JFK was murdered but you have no idea that, that is what Lee was referring to when he wrote: " I suggest that we discuss the matter------- "  If Currington  wanted us to know that Hunt was in contact with Oswald" then why wait for years to present it?

Currington's first loyalty was to HL Hunt....  After Hunt died....He felt relieved of defending him.
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2022, 02:36:42 AM »
Since Tim seems to respect the opinion of David Purtell:

“Photocopies have several limitations. They do not reproduce all the fine details in handwriting needed in making an examination and comparison. At best, they do not produce as sharp an image as a properly produced photograph, and they lack tonal gradations, a result of the contrasting process of reproduction. In addition, it is possible to incorporate or insert changes and alterations into copies. A method frequently used is to paste together parts of documents to make one fraudulent document, which is then copied. If the first copy can pass inspection, it will be used; if not, it will be reworked to eliminate all signs of alteration. This amended copy is then recopied for the finished product. This is usually referred to as the "cut and paste" method. Document examiners only render a qualified or conditional opinion when working from copies. They stipulate that they have to examine the original before a definite opinion will be made.”

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2022, 07:11:14 AM »

Make sure it was dated?.... Isn't it common practice to put the date at the top of a letter?...
A more formal letter perhaps ...but a brief note and an intriguing one at that?
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The note does tend to incriminate Oswald for a planned crime that he was never aware of.
 
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You're putting the mule behind the plow....  You know that JFK was murdered but you have no idea that is what Lee was referring to when he wrote: " I suggest that we discuss the matter------- "   
I wouldn't imagine that 'the matter' referred to a birthday party or a football game.
What would a Texas oil millionaire have in common with a lowly school book order filler?
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How would Hunt and Oswald ever have met?
Answer would be that doubtfully..they ever did.
T N mentioned the study by Jerry Kroth. Prof Kroth got all excited about the note's spelling of-- concerding
He found that the same spelling is found in some letter that Oswald sent to the American Embassy back in 1961.
The trouble I had with this is that I don't think Oswald penned or typed that letter because the rest of the text was flawless in grammar as well as spelling. I think that someone typed that embassy letter for him.
What about 'concerding'?.... I haven't the foggiest. 

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2022, 06:56:05 PM »
A more formal letter perhaps ...but a brief note and an intriguing one at that?   I wouldn't imagine that 'the matter' referred to a birthday party or a football game.
What would a Texas oil millionaire have in common with a lowly school book order filler?Answer would be that doubtfully..they ever did.
T N mentioned the study by Jerry Kroth. Prof Kroth got all excited about the note's spelling of-- concerding
He found that the same spelling is found in some letter that Oswald sent to the American Embassy back in 1961.
The trouble I had with this is that I don't think Oswald penned or typed that letter because the rest of the text was flawless in grammar as well as spelling. I think that someone typed that embassy letter for him.
What about 'concerding'?.... I haven't the foggiest.

 I wouldn't imagine that 'the matter' referred to a birthday party or a football game.

No , Lee didn't want to talk to Mr Hunt about some trivial matter,  I agree , you're right .....  Lee wouldn't have wanted to talk to HL Hunt about some trivial matter.... The very tone of the note indicates that he was worried ......

And we are left to speculate about the subject that Lee wanted to discuss.....  Since we all have 20-20 hindsight and we know that JFK was murdered less than two weeks after Lee wrote the note we can easily suspect that the note was related to the assassination....But there is NOTHING in that note that even hints as such a possibility.

I strongly suspect that Lee had picked up info that The Dallas Birchers or minute men were planning something for JFK's visit to Dallas. I believe that Hunt knew that Lee Oswald had been involved in the hoax attack on Walker and thought that maybe he could recruit Lee to participate in another dumb stunt.       






Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2022, 11:27:35 PM »
Since Tim seems to respect the opinion of David Purtell:

“Photocopies have several limitations. They do not reproduce all the fine details in handwriting needed in making an examination and comparison. At best, they do not produce as sharp an image as a properly produced photograph, and they lack tonal gradations, a result of the contrasting process of reproduction. In addition, it is possible to incorporate or insert changes and alterations into copies. A method frequently used is to paste together parts of documents to make one fraudulent document, which is then copied. If the first copy can pass inspection, it will be used; if not, it will be reworked to eliminate all signs of alteration. This amended copy is then recopied for the finished product. This is usually referred to as the "cut and paste" method. Document examiners only render a qualified or conditional opinion when working from copies. They stipulate that they have to examine the original before a definite opinion will be made.”

As you are aware, from the times we spent discussing the authentication of the handwriting on the money order by the HSCA experts and others,  that is something that I have acknowledged. And I've done so many times.

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2022, 11:40:31 PM »
As you are aware, from the times we spent discussing the authentication of the handwriting on the money order by the HSCA experts and others,  that is something that I have acknowledged. And I've done so many times.

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2613.msg94082.html#msg94082

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Handwriting authentication
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2022, 12:41:13 AM »
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2613.msg94082.html#msg94082

As you are aware, from the times we spent discussing the authentication of the handwriting on the money order by the HSCA experts and others,  that is something that I have acknowledged. And I've done so many times.

So, you agree that the "absolute" conclusions by the WC "FBI experts" are at best highly questionable?