Messrs Shelley & Lovelady: The Big Lie

[Alan Ford]

Then why is the sighting of Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor being made by Adams on Feb 17th?
Is it some weird mistake she is making?
Is it the beginning of conspiracy? Has this interview been tampered with?

Feb 17 marked the moment when the Lovelady/Shelley scam was put into operation.

From Mr Barry Ernest's The Girl on the Stairs:

"She told me about the night she was startled to find Dallas police officer James Leavelle standing at her front doorstep. The date was February 17, 1964.
“One time, a detective from the Dallas police came to my apartment, showed his badge and asked to talk with me. I asked him why he needed to talk with me since I had already given my testimony to the Dallas police. ‘Oh,’ he responded, ‘the records were all burned in a fire we had and we have to interview everyone again.’"

[Alan Ford]

The Stroud document is a joke. Adams WC statement provides timestamps that render it a farce. Adams encountered Shelley and Lovelady near the elevator on her way through the first floor.

'The fact that Garner saw something that rules out Adams' encounter with Shelley and Lovelady proves that Adams had the encounter with Shelley and Lovelady'

 

Stroud was at her desk when the shooting took place.

"Stroud" lol

She then goes to the window and does not know when they left.

Barry Ernest's statement about Adams does not include an encounter with the negroes. That must be some fake make-believe nonsense fron the Deep Politics Forum. Obviously Ernest never knew the encounters of Adams with the different police officers that would put time stamps on her and Styles movements.

Barry Ernest: 2011 

"The letter has since become known as "the Stroud document.
     Its contents concerned the testimony of Victoria Adams and how,
on examination, Miss Adams had noticed several spelling and
grammatical errors that she felt needed correction.  None of those
corrections were made in the final version, however."

Your rendition of her statement included "Top Secret" at the top. What would have been top secret about her statement?

~Grin~

My "rendition"? Nope--just my reproduction! 

[Dan O'meara]

The Stroud document is a joke. Adams WC statement provides timestamps that render it a farce. Adams encountered Shelley and Lovelady near the elevator on her way through the first floor. Stroud was at her desk when the shooting took place. She then goes to the window and does not know when they left.

Barry Ernest's statement about Adams does not include an encounter with the negroes. That must be some fake make-believe nonsense fron the Deep Politics Forum. Obviously Ernest never knew the encounters of Adams with the different police officers that would put time stamps on her and Styles movements.

Barry Ernest: 2011 

"The letter has since become known as "the Stroud document.
     Its contents concerned the testimony of Victoria Adams and how,
on examination, Miss Adams had noticed several spelling and
grammatical errors that she felt needed correction.  None of those
corrections were made in the final version, however."

Your rendition of her statement included "Top Secret" at the top. What would have been top secret about her statement?

Maybe this is not the right forum for fantasy evidence.

Adams WC statement provides timestamps that render it a farce.

In his HSCA interview, after being presented with a still from the Hughes film showing him stood outside the TSBD building approximately ten minutes after the assassination, Billy Lovelady finally concedes that he didn't re-enter the building for 20-25 minutes after the shooting.
How does this fit in with Adams' timeline?

Mr. BELIN. How long do you think it was between the time the shots were fired and the time you left the window to start toward the stairway?
Miss ADAMS. Between 15 and 30 seconds, estimated, approximately.
Mr. BELIN. How long do you think it was, or do you think it took you to get from the window to the top of the fourth floor stairs?
Miss ADAMS. I don't think I can answer that question accurately, because the time approximation, without a stopwatch, would be difficult.
Mr. BELIN. How long do you think it took you. to get from the window to the bottom of the stairs on the first floor?
Miss ADAMS. I would say no longer than a minute at the most.

[Jack Nessan]

'The fact that Garner saw something that rules out Adams' encounter with Shelley and Lovelady proves that Adams had the encounter with Shelley and Lovelady'

 

"Stroud" lol

~Grin~

My "rendition"? Nope--just my reproduction! 

'The fact that Garner saw something that rules out Adams' encounter with Shelley and Lovelady proves that Adams had the encounter with Shelley and Lovelady'

Huh?

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No, a fictional rendition. Reproduction leaves the impression it was real when it is just fiction.

[Jack Nessan]

Feb 17 marked the moment when the Lovelady/Shelley scam was put into operation.

From Mr Barry Ernest's The Girl on the Stairs:

"She told me about the night she was startled to find Dallas police officer James Leavelle standing at her front doorstep. The date was February 17, 1964.
“One time, a detective from the Dallas police came to my apartment, showed his badge and asked to talk with me. I asked him why he needed to talk with me since I had already given my testimony to the Dallas police. ‘Oh,’ he responded, ‘the records were all burned in a fire we had and we have to interview everyone again.’"

Don't forget to post the part that the only problem Adams had with her WC testimony was grammar.

She encountered the police in the back and the front of the TSBD. The timestamps provided by these encounters render the Stroud document basically nonsense.

Barry Ernest: 2011 

"The letter has since become known as "the Stroud document.
     Its contents concerned the testimony of Victoria Adams and how,
on examination, Miss Adams had noticed several spelling and
grammatical errors that she felt needed correction.  None of those
corrections were made in the final version, however."
 

[Jack Nessan]

Adams WC statement provides timestamps that render it a farce.

In his HSCA interview, after being presented with a still from the Hughes film showing him stood outside the TSBD building approximately ten minutes after the assassination, Billy Lovelady finally concedes that he didn't re-enter the building for 20-25 minutes after the shooting.
How does this fit in with Adams' timeline?

Mr. BELIN. How long do you think it was between the time the shots were fired and the time you left the window to start toward the stairway?
Miss ADAMS. Between 15 and 30 seconds, estimated, approximately.
Mr. BELIN. How long do you think it was, or do you think it took you to get from the window to the top of the fourth floor stairs?
Miss ADAMS. I don't think I can answer that question accurately, because the time approximation, without a stopwatch, would be difficult.
Mr. BELIN. How long do you think it took you. to get from the window to the bottom of the stairs on the first floor?
Miss ADAMS. I would say no longer than a minute at the most.

No, it wasn't an HSCA interview it was Groden trying to establish there was two people who looked like Lovelady. Even DiEugenio thought Lovelady was lying.

[Dan O'meara]

No, it wasn't an HSCA interview it was Groden trying to establish there was two people who looked like Lovelady. Even DiEugenio thought Lovelady was lying.

Yes, it was a HSCA interview.

http://www.prayer-man.com/billy-lovelady-hsca-interview/

Lovelady lied in his WC testimony about entering the west door with Shelley.
Shelley lied in his WC testimony about entering the west door with Lovelady.
Both men lied about how long it was before they left the TSBD building steps.
Both Martin and Hughes filmed Lovelady outside the TSBD building around ten minutes after the assassination.
Lovelady didn't re-enter the TSBD building for 20-25 minutes - these are his own words.
The encounter with Adams running down the stairs seconds after the assassination did not happen.
Adams insists her testimony was altered in this regard.
Styles confirms this.
Garner confirms both women left the fourth floor almost immediately.