The Initials Of FBI Agent Elmer Todd Are On CE399 (Hi-Def Photo Proof)

[John Iacoletti]

Iacoletti evidently doesn't consider circumstantial evidence to be "evidence."

LOL!

LOL, indeed.  A ring in a cup isn't even circumstantial evidence of a crime.  It's evidence of a vivid imagination and confirmation bias on the part of the interpreter.

[Tom Graves]

LOL, indeed.  A ring in a cup isn't even circumstantial evidence of a crime.  It's evidence of a vivid imagination and confirmation bias on the part of the interpreter.

Marina testified that Lee had never before left his wedding ring behind, much less in that special little cup.

She also testified that he had left behind some $170 in a dresser drawer.

Can you conjure up some really creative reason as to why he would have done those two things on that particular morning?

[John Iacoletti]

Marina testified that Lee had never before left his wedding ring behind, much less in that special little cup.

Is that supposed to magically make it evidence of murder?

She also testified that he had left behind some $170 in a dresser drawer.

Is that also supposed to be evidence of murder? Only if you don’t have actual evidence.

Can you conjure up some really creative reason as to why he would have done those two things on that particular morning?

And if I don’t want to make up a “creative” reason, then your creative reason automatically wins and becomes evidence?

[Tom Graves]

Is that supposed to magically make it evidence of murder?

Is that also supposed to be evidence of murder? Only if you don’t have actual evidence.

And if I don’t want to make up a “creative” reason, then your creative reason automatically wins and becomes evidence?

Unless Marina was lying because . . . gasp . . . she was working for the evil, evil FBI or the evil, evil CIA (it's interesting that KGB true defector Pyotr Deriabin said she had to be at least a low-level KGB informant to be permitted to marry her handsome Prince Charming and leave the USSR with him), the little self-described Marxist's leaving his wedding ring and 95% of his life savings behind is circumstantial evidence of consciousness of guilt about what he's going to try to do a few hours later.

[John Iacoletti]

Marina made so many contradictory statements that the HSCA compiled a 29 page document listing them.  They can't all be true.  "Marina said so" is a really lousy reason to believe anything.

"I think leaving a wedding ring behind is evidence of murder" is even a more ridiculous argument.

[Tom Graves]

Marina made so many contradictory statements that the HSCA compiled a 29 page document listing them.  They can't all be true.  "Marina said so" is a really lousy reason to believe anything.

"I think leaving a wedding ring behind is evidence of murder" is even a more ridiculous argument.

I think leaving behind one's wedding ring and 95% of one's meager life savings a few hours before one's short-rifle is found hidden with one's fingerprints on it in one's seven-story, on-the-motorcade-route, place of work is consciousness-of-guilt-in-advance, especially since the two larger bullet fragments found in the limo and the practically-whole bullet found in Parkland Hospital were matched to said short-rifle to the exclusion of any other rifle in the world.

[John Iacoletti]

I think leaving behind one's wedding ring and 95% of one's meager life savings a few hours before one's short-rifle is found hidden with one's fingerprints on it in one's seven-story, on-the-motorcade-route, place of work is consciousness-of-guilt-in-advance

Of course you do.  Especially when you don't have any real evidence.

Correction: some fingerprints were found near the trigger guard that were unsuitable for identification purposes, and a single partial palmprint was received by the FBI a week later on an index card after they found no other prints on the rifle.

, especially since the two larger bullet fragments found in the limo

You mean the fragments allegedly found by a navy corpman and a secret service agent tampering with an unsecured crime scene before it could be properly processed, not photographed in place and with no valid contemporaneously documented chain of custody?

and the practically-whole bullet found in Parkland Hospital

You mean the bullet allegedly found on an unrelated stretcher, also with no valid contemporaneously documented chain of custody?

were matched to said short-rifle to the exclusion of any other rifle in the world.

You mean the short rifle you cannot prove killed anybody or was ever in the possession of your favorite suspect?