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Offline Michael Walton

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Re: JFK headed back to Dallas
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2022, 12:46:28 AM »
Bugliosi’s belief that Charles Manson was trying to start a race war was pretty wacky.

Try this on for size:

Bugliosi comes up with this crazy narrative regarding the Manson murders. His story is that Charlie wanted to create a race war and Helter Skelter when all it really was about is Manson wanted to become a rock star, thought he was xxxxxxxx over by Terry Melcher [who used to live in the Tate house] and wanted to exact revenge.

YET - he actually wanted to re-open the RFK murder case if you can believe it:

https://www.kennedysandking.com/robert-f-kennedy-articles/sirhan-and-the-rfk-assassination-part-i-the-grand-illusion

Then goes 360 and becomes the so-called master of the JFK case.

Offline Rick Plant

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Re: JFK headed back to Dallas
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2022, 07:42:13 AM »
The JFK QAnon Cult Is Heading Back to Dallas for Another ‘Second Coming’

Michael Protzman, a QAnon influencer, has once again promised that JFK would reappear and reveal himself to the group.



It’s been 220 days since more than 1,000 people traveled from across the U.S. to Dallas at the behest of Michael Protzman, a QAnon influencer known as Negative 48, who promised his followers that John F. Kennedy would reappear at Dealey Plaza. JFK didn’t reappear, of course, but the QAnon cult is now returning to Texas.

More than seven months after the group first met in Dallas, it is heading back to the city this weekend after Protzman once again promised that JFK would reveal himself to the group, proving once and for all that he is, in fact, the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. Protzman has already checked into the Hyatt Regency, where hundreds of people gathered back in November.

“What started in Dallas ends in Dallas,” one member of a Telegram group linked to the cult wrote on Friday morning.

Earlier this week, Protzman, in hours-long audio chats on his Telegram channel, laid out what he predicted would happen this weekend. He told his followers that JFK would only reveal himself to those willing to travel to Dallas on Saturday. This would be followed by 10 days of darkness before JFK would finally reveal himself to the world.

A core group of followers remained in the city for months after their initial gathering, before going on tour to follow former President Donald Trump at rallies across the country.  In that time, Protzman has destroyed relationships, financially ruined families, and pushed increasingly erratic and wild conspiracies about Trump, JFK and the Ukraine war.

It’s unclear how many people will be in Dallas this weekend, but a review of posts on Telegram, as well as videos posted by those already in Dallas, suggest that at least dozens of people will once again make the journey.

For the family members of those involved, the fact that so many are once again willing to flock to Dallas, shows just what a hold this man has over his followers.

“​​I’d like to say that I am glad Protzman’s group of believers are all heading back to Dallas so that Michael Protzman will be exposed as a liar, but I am not holding my breath that any of his followers will suddenly have the ability to think critically and see that they are following a madman,” a family member of one of Protzman’s followers told VICE News. “They have the uncanny ability to believe everything Protzman tells them. I mean EVERYTHING.”

The family member, who did not want to be identified over fears of retaliation from the group, described the last 220 days as a “nightmare,” adding that they and the rest of the families affected by this just want “closure.”

“It has been something that has almost broken me completely,” they said. “I have had to come to grips with losing my loved one, and yet they are still alive. The person I once knew doesn’t seem to be there—mentally—anymore. It has filled me with anxiety, confusion, deep pain, and deep feelings of rejection.  It has been a difficult journey of trying to come to grips with something so unbelievable that it seems impossible to reconcile in my own thinking.”

Protzman, a former demolition expert from Federal Way in Washington state who was previously arrested for domestic violence, rose to fame as a QAnon influencer through his use of a bastardized version of the Jewish numerology system known as gematria, which assigned a numerical value to each letter of the alphabet, allowing those who use it to draw links between seeming disparate events, names, and phrases.

He amassed tens of thousands of followers on his Telegram channel in the space of months, and was able to persuade over 1,000 people to pay for flights and accommodation to come to Dallas at the beginning of November last year.

In Dallas, he forced elderly followers and children to spend hours waiting for the JFK appearance that never materialized. One day, he forced his followers to wait in the rain at Dealey Plaza—where JFK was assassinated in 1963—for the former president to reappear. When that didn’t happen, he forced everyone to buy expensive tickets for a Rolling Stones concert in the city where he claimed dead celebrities like Prince, Michael Jackson, and Aaliyah would join JFK Jr on stage dressed as the members of the band.

While many of the followers realized Prtozman was a fraud at this point, there were still over 100 who remained loyal to him and remained in Dallas for months, spending Thanksgiving and Christmas away from their families.

Many of them also handed over tens of thousands of dollars to Protzman to pay for his penthouse suite at the Hyatt. Numerous family members who VICE News has spoken to over the course of the last seven months have said that their family members have given huge sums of money to the group.

This year, Protzman has taken his group on the road, travelling to numerous Trump rallies where he has claimed that Trump was in fact JFK in disguise. The group became so friendly with the event staff at Trump’s rallies that they were given jobs helping set up seating at the events in exchange for VIP tickets.

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Protzman has continued to make wilder and wilder claims, including false assertions that the Ukraine war was a cover to unmask President Joe Biden’s criminality and that Melania Trump was the Queen of Russia.

The group has also posted images of some of the most prominent members, including Protzman himself, making Nazi salutes. One of the members of the group told VICE News at the time that it was done for “just some laughs” and to “make fun of you guys who falsely report us as a cult.”

In March, it looked like the group may be about to collapse, when Protzman kicked out some core members of the group  and subsequently formed a splinter group, which became known as the Scooby Doo Crew. The group, led by former actor Stephen Tenner and Shelly Mullinax, have also been travelling to Trump rallies, most recently in an RV painted to look like the Mystery Machine from the Scooby Doo cartoons. 

The two groups have been fighting with each other for months, both online and in person when they meet at Trump rallies.

However, Tenner and Mullinax both believe that Protzman only kicked them out of the main group as a plot to expose others within the group as frauds and that he will ultimately welcome them back into the fold. The reality, VICE News previously reported, is that Protzman kicked Shelley out of the group because she refused to give him more money.

Both Protzman’s group and the splinter group have continued to solicit and receive donations from followers on Telegram using the money to travel around the country.

They still share the same interests—on Thursday night, the Scooby Doo Crew arrived in Dallas and also checked into the the Hyatt Regency.

2022 Karma @2022Karma
The splinter group aka Scooby Doo Crew arrived at the Dallas Hyatt, to a welcoming of Michael Protzman’s aka -48 cult members waiting for them in the lobby. They all had their phones out recording them as they checked in. -48 claims to have a restraining order on Shelly.

It’s been 220 days since Michael Protzman aka -48 first arrived in Dallas with 100s of people who followed him to see JFK aka the second coming of Jesus Christ arise from the dead.

They spent until January 2022 camped out at the Hyatt.


Watch: https://twitter.com/i/status/1535137183564148736

https://twitter.com/2022_Karma/status/1535137183564148736

For the last seven months, an open-source researcher who is known as Karma has spent countless hours monitoring this group’s activities, flagging Protzman’s increasingly erratic behavior, and helping families get their loved ones back.

She believes that calling followers to Dallas this weekend will result in more hardship and pain.

“Michael Protzman has caused irreparable damage to his followers’ families, tearing apart husbands, wives and children,” Karma told VICE News. “Protzman asking more of his followers to come to Dallas on the 11th is worrying because more than likely some will stay on past that date and more families will be torn apart.”

Protzman or other members of his group did not respond to VICE News’ request for comment.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7v48d/the-jfk-qanon-cult-is-heading-back-to-dallas-for-another-second-coming

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: JFK headed back to Dallas
« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2022, 12:41:50 AM »
Just what we need.  Yet another political, non-JFK assassination, anti-Trump political thread on this forum.  There are only a dozen or so of those created by one poster to the tune of tens of thousands of posts on the topic.  But since this is here, the whole QAnon business is something created by leftist nuts and media to make Trump supporters appear to be conspiracy theorists.  It's a bogus movement started by leftist and populated by a handful of nuts.  Anyone with half a brain knows that no one believes JFK is headed back to Dallas.  But that fits a desired narrative, though.  It's a hoax.  Like the alleged plot to kidnap Whitmer which turned out to be FBI-driven hoax.  Or Russian collusion.  Hoax.  It's laughable that anyone takes this nonsense seriously.   
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Re: JFK headed back to Dallas
« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2022, 12:47:54 AM »
  It's a hoax.  Like the alleged plot to kidnap Whitmer which turned out to be FBI-driven hoax. 
See? ....Richard Smith does believe in conspiracies.  ;)
From the depths of the Deep State no less.

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Re: JFK headed back to Dallas
« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2022, 12:50:04 AM »
See? ....Richard Smith does believe in conspiracies.  ;)
From the depths of the Deep State no less.

Sure there are many conspiracies in history.  I've never said otherwise.  There was a conspiracy to kill President Lincoln, for example.  What proves a conspiracy is the evidence of the involvement of more than one person.  That is not the case in the JFK assassination. 

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Re: JFK headed back to Dallas
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2022, 01:43:24 AM »
First of all, the Governor Whitmer kidnapping plot is not a "hoax". The poster above who posted that is posting clear disinformation. That's a conspiracy theory Fox "News" pushes for the gullible sheep just like they claimed there was "massive voter fraud" that wasn't. The trial against the two men accused of the kidnapping plot ended in a hung jury. Federal prosecutors plan to try the men again. The article is below at the bottom.       

Russian collusion is not a hoax. The Senate Intelligence Report stated that there was Rusian collusion and Russia admitted they helped to elect Criminal Donald. Articles are again below. 

QAnon is not "made up by leftists to make Trump look bad". That's a ridiculous false claim. Republican Representatives Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert are both QAnon cultists.   

Radical QAnon Trump cultists believe JFK is alive and was not assassinated, so this is perfectly relevant to the JFK case.

Of course the QAnon lunatics believe JFK and JFK Jr are coming back to Dallas. They are cult members who follow Donald Trump and keep coming back to Dallas. Only a radical supporter of Criminal Donald would get offended by this.

The GOP and the right wing media ARE conspiracy theorists. They push QAnon conspiracy theories.They all pushed Trump's election fraud lies. Fox "News", Newsmax, OANN, and Trump's cohorts all got sued by Dominion Voting Systems. They lied about Dominion "rigging the vote". And we can't forget about the "Cyber Ninjas" in Arizona who claimed the ballots contained "bamboo from China". All of these lies were pushed by Republicans and the right wing media. Yes indeed they are conspiracy theorists, and their conspiracy theories made it possible for these QAnon kooks to keep coming back to Dallas looking for JFK  Senior and Junior to emerge from the shadows to join forces with Trump.         

QAnon cultists wear t shirts depicting Trump/JFK/JFK Jr. as they wait for their "grand return". These people are nuts and want to take over our government. Many QAnon cultists are running for office as Republicans in 2022 including the man who people say is "Q" (Ron Watkins) who makes up these bogus conspiracy theories.   





QAnon and the Trump cult: Expert Steven Hassan on whether they can be saved
https://www.salon.com/2021/03/25/qanon-and-the-trump-cult-expert-steven-hassan-on-whether-they-can-be-saved/

How Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, promoter of QAnon's baseless theories, rose with support from key Republicans
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/greene-qanon-house-trump-republicans/2021/01/30/321b4258-623c-11eb-ac8f-4ae05557196e_story.html

How Trump Ally Michael Flynn Nurtured And Profited From The QAnon Conspiracy Theory.
https://theintercept.com/2021/06/27/qanon-michael-flynn-digital-soldiers/

Feds move forward on case against ‘leaders’ of Whitmer kidnap plot
https://www.woodtv.com/news/michigan/feds-move-forward-on-case-against-leaders-of-whitmer-kidnap-plot/

U.S. Senate report goes beyond Mueller to lay bare Trump campaign's Russia links
Bipartisan intelligence panel says that Russian who worked on Trump’s 2016 bid was career spy, amid a stunning range of contacts
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/18/donald-trump-us-senate-report-russia-campaign

Kremlin papers appear to show Putin’s plot to put Trump in White House
Exclusive: Documents suggest Russia launched secret multi-agency effort to interfere in US democracy
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house

Fox News Hit With Massive Lawsuit Over Rigged Election Lies
The network is being sued by election technology company Dominion for $1.6 billion
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/03/fox-news-hit-with-massive-lawsuit-over-rigged-election-lies
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Re: JFK headed back to Dallas
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2022, 11:28:15 AM »
Well, the Trump QAnon cultists once again suffered more disappointment as JFK and JFK Jr. were both no shows at the huge gala event in Dallas, Texas waiting for their "grand return". But don't worry, their cult leader Michael Protzman says JFK and JFK Jr. will now make their triumphant return on June 24th. So, these loons are staying in Dallas until the 24th believing that's the day the Kennedy's will emerge from the shadows. These cultists also believe that "JFK wears a mask so he could be anyone". Absolutely insane how people are so weak minded that they can fall for a scam like this.

Here's a photo of some of the Trump QAnon cultists eagerly awaiting the "grand return" of JFK and JFK Jr. 



 
2022 Karma has some videos on cult leader Michael Protzman.

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After Michael Protzman’s aka -48 failed prediction that JFK the second coming of Jesus Christ would return on the 11th June, -48 has moved the Goalposts to the 24th of June. Sometime between now and then the 10 days of darkness will happen according to -48.

Watch: https://twitter.com/i/status/1536479739967414273

2022 Karma
-48 tells his followers that Durham is JFK and that JFK wears a mask, so basically JFK can be anyone he tells his followers he is.

Watch: https://twitter.com/i/status/1536479847278444544

2022 Karma
-48 told his followers that after he watched 2000 Mules he realized that Gregg Philips was really John McAfee.

Watch: https://twitter.com/i/status/1536479983782469632

If you don't know what "2000 Mules" is, that's a Trump "election fraud" conspiracy documentary produced by convicted criminal Dinesh D’Souza who was pardoned by Criminal Donald. Dinesh is currently pushing this phony "2020 election fraud" documentary and it's been hyped on Faux News. Trump's former Attorney General Bill Barr called it joke on tape and it was played during the January 6th Committee Hearings yesterday. Dinesh even claimed he dated Faux News hack Laura Ingraham in college. All of these conspiracy theorists are all intertwined with Trump and the right wing media to push their insane lies and disinformation. 


Convicted criminal Dinesh D’Souza

Here's Bill Barr on tape laughing at this bogus "documentary".

Watch: https://twitter.com/i/status/1536377673886404608
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