David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2022, 03:20:15 AM »
The Oswald defenders, for some unknown reason, want to use this legalistic standard - "chain of custody" and other legal rules - to throw out the evidence against him.

Wrong. WC skeptics want you to authenticate the evidence that you are basing your conclusions on (or more often demonstrate the relevance of what you call “evidence”). And you cannot do it.

If you were interested in the truth you would admit that instead of engaging in prosecuting lawyer-like tactics.

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2022, 03:25:15 AM »
Btw, Bug said he wrote RH as if he was at trial, exaggerating on purpose

When did Vince ever say that?

Maybe he did say it. But I can't recall it. Can you point me to where he says that within his RH book? Or in one of his dozens of 2007 book tour interviews that I have archived?....

http://Vincent-Bugliosi.blogspot.com
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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2022, 03:28:31 AM »
There were multiple different witnesses who identified LHO as the person at the Tippit scene

Eyewitness identification is unreliable under the best of circumstances. The ones that were done in this case were so egregiously unfair and biased that they are utterly worthless.

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Oswald was arrested a short distance away with the gun and in possession of the SAME two brands of ammo used to kill Tippit. 

Still false. No matter how many times you parrot it.

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Oswald instead pulled his gun and engaged in a struggle.

Still false. No matter how many times you parrot it.

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It's a slam dunk.

Still false. No matter how many times you parrot it.

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Re: Oswald's Obvious Guilt In The Murder Of J.D. Tippit
« Reply #45 on: June 11, 2022, 03:40:13 AM »
Oswald had the Tippit murder weapon in his possession when he was arrested (which was a mere 35 minutes after Tippit was shot). We know Oswald had "The Tippit Murder Weapon" because all 4 bullet shell casings that littered 10th Street and Patton Avenue were matched conclusively to the revolver Oswald had on him in the Texas Theater. (CTer whining and moaning about this notwithstanding, of course.)

So, it's time to post my favorite graphic/logo again:


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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #46 on: June 11, 2022, 07:12:58 AM »
When did Vince ever say that?

Maybe he did say it. But I can't recall it. Can you point me to where he says that within his RH book? Or in one of his dozens of 2007 book tour interviews that I have archived?....

http://Vincent-Bugliosi.blogspot.com

I didn't see it in his book. It's not from your material. I recall reading it from an article, but I don't recall if I took a screen shot.
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Re: David Von Pein's "evidence" deconstructed
« Reply #47 on: June 11, 2022, 07:19:16 AM »
I didn't see it in his book. It's not from your material. I recall reading it from an article, but I don't recall if I took a screen shot.

If you find it, let me know. I'd like to see it. I have my own doubts about whether Vince would have ever said something like that. Because a blatant comment like that would just give the CTers another reason to criticize him (for not being totally unbiased).
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Re: Oswald's Obvious Guilt In The Murder Of J.D. Tippit
« Reply #48 on: June 11, 2022, 07:26:13 AM »
Oswald had the Tippit murder weapon in his possession when he was arrested

Says you. That’s yet another thing you cannot demonstrate is actually true because the police (either out of malice or sheer incompetence — and it doesn’t matter which) completely mishandled the evidence. By the way, when Oswald was (illegally and without probable cause) arrested, the alleged revolver was allegedly in the alleged possession of the alleged Bob Carroll.

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We know Oswald had "The Tippit Murder Weapon" because all 4 bullet shell casings that littered 10th Street and Patton Avenue were matched conclusively to the revolver Oswald had on him in the Texas Theater.

Shells don’t kill people. You don’t know what the “Tippit murder weapon” was because the bullets removed from Tippit did not have sufficient characteristics to identify a specific weapon.

And correction: the shells that you cannot demonstrate were ever at Tenth and Patton or related to Tippit’s murder were matched conclusively to a revolver that you cannot demonstrate was ever in Oswald’s possession.
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