The Assassination and Mrs. Paine

[Charles Collins]

Their "evidence" is that Michael Paine's mother knew Mary Bancroft who was a mistress of Dulles. But the actual evidence that Ruth or Michael knew Dulles is zero. White mice? I don't know-maybe Talbot thinks they were experiments that Dulles was running? Again-no evidence.

White mice?





 

[Steve M. Galbraith]

It seems Talbot's "white mice" reference/metaphor was about this (fasten your seat belt, it's going to be rough). This is from his book on Dulles, "The Devil's Chessboard", pg. 135.

"But even the sophisticated Mary [Bancroft] found herself unnerved by one of her conversations with Dulles. She had observed that despite his cunning reputation, Allen always seemed so 'open and trusting' even with people about whom he clearly harbored suspicions or whom he 'actually had the goods on.' As he listened to Mary, Dulles grinned. 'I like to watch the little mice sniffing at the cheese just before they venture into their little trap', he told her. 'I like to see their expressions when it snaps shut, breaking their little necks.'

Elsewhere in the book he refers again to what he calls "little mice" - people that were covert operatives, agents and assets (many unwitting) - that he says Dulles used and discarded (the "little traps") during WWII and the Cold War.

Since Talbot believes Dulles was the mastermind behind the assassination, he argues that the Paines were some of these "mice" that he used/trapped to help kill JFK and frame Oswald.

[W. Tracy Parnell]

It seems Talbot's "white mice" reference/metaphor was about this. This is from his book on Dulles, "The Devil's Chessboard", pg. 135.

Thanks. I never have gotten around to reading the whole book. I can see what I have been missing after the excerpt you posted. 

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Thanks. I never have gotten around to reading the whole book. I can see what I have been missing after the excerpt you posted. 

It's definitely a classic..

Yep, I spent about 30 minutes or so looking that up. Would have been better time spent rearranging the socks in my dresser. Stone's movie, Garrison's "Heritage of Stone", the DiEugenio fantasies....it's crazy out there.

 

[W. Tracy Parnell]

Did Ruth Paine incriminate LHO?
http://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/2022/07/the-assassination-and-mrs-paine-part.html

[Richard Smith]

Did Ruth Paine incriminate LHO?
http://wtracyparnell.blogspot.com/2022/07/the-assassination-and-mrs-paine-part.html

If Ruth Paine were part of some effort to frame Oswald, she would undoubtedly have said things like Oswald hated JFK, kept a rifle in her garage, seemed nervous or agitated on the night before the assassination, and carried a long bag as he left the house that morning.  None of which she did.  The CTer hatred of Paine is perplexing since she really didn't provide much evidence that linked Oswald to the crime.

[W. Tracy Parnell]

If Ruth Paine were part of some effort to frame Oswald, she would undoubtedly have said things like Oswald hated JFK, kept a rifle in her garage, seemed nervous or agitated on the night before the assassination, and carried a long bag as he left the house that morning.  None of which she did.  The CTer hatred of Paine is perplexing since she really didn't provide much evidence that linked Oswald to the crime.

Good point. I'll get into that in part two I expect.