Jim Leavelle Misremembers

[John Iacoletti]

Leavelle was not a dirty cop. He was an honorable man.

What kind of honorable man shows up at somebody's private residence at night unannounced and lies to her about there being a fire at the station that destroyed her earlier statements?

[John Iacoletti]

Hi Tim, How have you been doing? According to Vicki she said she did not say that in her Warren Commission testimony. She said that they inserted it. Notice her testimony was Top Secret. Why? Thank you for everything, Sincerely yours, Michael

Tim doesn't know that she saw the page that mentions Lovelady and Shelley or that she was the one who wrote the single word "there" on that page.

[Michael Welch]

Hi John, How have you been doing? It is good to see you are still here! I know about and agree with your statements. And don't forget Detective Leavelle's: we handled the President's assassination like a south Dallas Nword killing. Thank you for everything, Sincerely yours, Michael
 

[Tim Nickerson]

Hi Tim, How have you been doing? According to Vicki she said she did not say that in her Warren Commission testimony. She said that they inserted it. Notice her testimony was Top Secret. Why? Thank you for everything, Sincerely yours, Michael

I'm doing fine Michael. I hope you're fairing well yourself. Vicki was wrong. She viewed that page, as is evidenced by her marking "there" on it? Barry Ernest admitted that it's her handwriting on it. The encounter with Lovelady and Shelley is mentioned on another page as well. The Top Secret designation was not unique to her deposition.

[Tim Nickerson]

What kind of honorable man shows up at somebody's private residence at night unannounced and lies to her about there being a fire at the station that destroyed her earlier statements?

Never happened.

[Tim Nickerson]

Hi Tim, How have you been doing? According to Vicki she said she did not say that in her Warren Commission testimony. She said that they inserted it. Notice her testimony was Top Secret. Why? Thank you for everything, Sincerely yours, Michael

A. Even though Miss Adams waived her right to examine her testimony (as indicated in her deposition), a copy was hand-delivered to her office for her to examine, which she did, notated some spelling and grammar errors, and then signed. (Perhaps this was done to put on record the fact she had seen her testimony prior to publication.) None of her corrections involved the timing issue, however, which in the original stenographer's copy of her testimony is shown as "Between 15 and 30 seconds, estimated, approximately." In my interviews with her, she said the gentleman who delivered the copy of her testimony "stood over" her, watching intently as she made the corrections, which you can see in her handwriting in the original testimony. None of those corrections involved the "15 and 30 seconds" passage, and she did not make the trek to the U.S. attorney's office to make the changes.

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[Michael Welch]

Hi Tim, I am happy that you are doing fine. I am fine too. On Mr. Barry Ernest's wordpress page he says this:
 "William Shelley and Billy Lovelady, of course, are the most critical since the Commission used their words to discredit Vicki.  In her testimony, Vicki is quoted as saying she saw those two on the first floor when she arrived there within a minute after the assassination. But how could that be if she came down that fast and both men testified they remained outside for several minutes following the shooting?  Vicki contends she did not say she saw them, and the Shelley/Lovelady passage was inserted into a later transcript of her testimony to make her appear wrong. Certainly the Commission’s unstudied conclusion that Vicki was confused and descended later than she thought avoided having to explain why she didn’t see or hear anyone on the same stairs when, if she was indeed accurate with her timing, Oswald should have been there."
"James Leavelle interviewed Vicki on the night of February 17, 1964, under suspicious circumstances. He told her, for instance, he was there because a fire at police headquarters had destroyed Vicki’s earlier file. Despite previous questioning by several different authorities, this was the first time—now three months after the assassination—in which Vicki mentions the names Shelley and Lovelady."
"After descending the stairs Vicki went out the rear door, then in a few moments returned to the front entrance.  There, she noticed Joe Molina. Since Molina testified he only briefly remained outside before going back to work, Vicki’s sighting of him lends support for her swift descent, exit, and return to the building.  Molina, who was questioned late in the afternoon that day, should have been asked about Vicki since, during her earlier session, she specifically brought up his name, and Molina was being questioned about who he saw while standing outside. (Also at the front entrance, Vicki spotted and actually conversed with another employee, Avery Davis, who likely was spared the same fate as those above since she was never examined by the Commission.) The evidence remains consistent with Vicki coming down the stairs exactly as she testified.  Therefore, if she really did say in her testimony that she saw Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor, then those men lied under oath for some reason about remaining outside. But if she really didn’t say she saw them, then her testimony was falsified. That’s why the first-generation stenotype tape is so important." The stenotype tape of that particular day is missing. Sincerely yours, Michael