Were there two cameras from Zapruder’s perch?

[Jake Maxwell]

It Has all been studied before, Jake. I have discovered more shooters than you could find holes in a Tramp's vest.

All have been self debunked by myself on a public Forum many years ago.

The Tripod was first speculated by myself in the year 2002, and is written about in the 2003 Book "The Great Zapruder Hoax"
As indicated above, after more study I later debunked my own stupid theory simply by applying common sense, logic and reason.
Jim Fetzer ( AKA The Nutty Profetzer ) fell out with me because I asked him not to publish my mistaken and idiotic theory, but Fetzer being Fetzer, knowing it was nonsense, went ahead and published the photo analysis in his wacky book anyway.

Regarding the Altrgens photo, the late Bernice Moore was the first person point out a potential third man. I colorised her observation for her.


And here is Zapruder heading back to Jennifer Juniors with the Camera case seen in this later image.

That is very informative!
I wonder how many members are aware of your “journey” you’ve mentioned...

This does raise some questions for me...
I was completely unaware of your tripod “discovery” in 2002... I do wonder if a better pic has surfaced that shows this “tripod” with more clarity... making it stand out more (so I could see it!)... and perhaps it might have you reconsider your reversal on this...
The colorized pic you’ve shown (plus our Unger gallery copy) is not near the quality of photo I’ve seen at the link below...
BTW, your colorization does capture what I think is this “blended in” figure in the Altgens photo...
Here’s the link...

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/madison.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/5d/55dfdeb4-79a4-11e5-a78d-7f47972d641e/562a6242b0ec1.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C796

Do you now believe any of the Altgens photos were altered?





Here are the two examples of Altgens #8 from the Unger Gallery...
The quality is much less... with less definition in the “tripod” area...

[Steve Barber]

That is very informative!
I wonder how many members are aware of your “journey” you’ve mentioned...

This does raise some questions for me...
I was completely unaware of your tripod “discovery” in 2002... I do wonder if a better pic has surfaced that shows this “tripod” with more clarity... making it stand out more (so I could see it!)... and perhaps it might have you reconsider your reversal on this...
The colorized pic you’ve shown (plus our Unger gallery copy) is not near the quality of photo I’ve seen at the link below...
BTW, your colorization does capture what I think is this “blended in” figure in the Altgens photo...
Here’s the link...

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/madison.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/5d/55dfdeb4-79a4-11e5-a78d-7f47972d641e/562a6242b0ec1.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C796

Do you now believe any of the Altgens photos were altered?





Here are the two examples of Altgens #8 from the Unger Gallery...
The quality is much less... with less definition in the “tripod” area...

 One home movie disproves your theory, Jake.  The Mark Bell film.

The Bell film shows Sitzman and Zapruder walking in two different directions, and Zapruder has nothing that resembles a tripod in his hands. 
You are mistaking Zapruder's camera-held in his right hand in the Altgen's photo-with the carrying case, which I told you is what we are seeing strapped around Zapruder shoulder and back.  In spite of your insisting that the carrying case is a foot of the tripod, it is nothing more than the carrying case for the camera.  And there is no "third person" in the Bell film walking with Zapruder and Sitzman.   Period.

The Sixth Floor Museum is going to be releasing the Mark Bell film on their website in the near future, according to Stephen Fagin. The sharpness and clarity of the original film is unsurpassed compared to the inferior multi generation copies we've had available over the years, and includes the sprocket hole area, along with the right edge of the film which a small portion of contains image that isn't included in copies of the film.

[Jake Maxwell]

I’m really not suggesting that someone was walking with Z. and S.... but perhaps ducking for cover behind them as they walk away... No, I don’t think at all that Z. was carrying this “tripod”... but perhaps this “person” “altered” out of the Altgens photo was doing so...

I do look forward to seeing a sharp and clear Mark Bell film....

Regards...

[Steve Barber]

I’m really not suggesting that someone was walking with Z. and S.... but perhaps ducking for cover behind them as they walk away... No, I don’t think at all that Z. was carrying this “tripod”... but perhaps this “person” “altered” out of the Altgens photo was doing so...

I do look forward to seeing a sharp and clear Mark Bell film....

Regards...

 I want to apologize.  I'm sure you do look forward to seeing the clear Bell film, as we all do.

[Jake Maxwell]

Actually, I only “date” theories... I never “marry” them...
I try to follow the best evidence where it leads...
It really looks like more was happening at Z’s perch than we’ve been allowed to see...
I really am looking forward to seeing better renditions of all assassination films...
The best I’ve seen seem to give evidence that something sinister was going on in Dealey Plaza...

It would be good to see if the Paschall image below might be corroborated by the Mark Bell film...

[Steve Barber]

Actually, I only “date” theories... I never “marry” them...
I try to follow the best evidence where it leads...
It really looks like more was happening at Z’s perch than we’ve been allowed to see...
I really am looking forward to seeing better renditions of all assassination films...
The best I’ve seen seem to give evidence that something sinister was going on in Dealey Plaza...

It would be good to see if the Paschall image below might be corroborated by the Mark Bell film...

  This Bell film frame should answer your question. I have a little bit clearer copy of the Paschall film than what's available on the internet that I will share that corresponds with this Bell film frame, but I first have to dig it out of my files. 



   I forgot to include this un retouched Bell film frame.  I tried to enhance a little in the one above, and didn't do a very good job, so wanted to share the untouched film frame.

 

[Jake Maxwell]

Steve, all good...
I love my wife... she loves me... but she can’t “see” any of what I think I see and post from these assassination films and photos...
That has helped me decide to be very, very patient with every one else who disagrees with me... And I’ve been wrong in other areas of life along the way, I try to hold “loosely” theories I might tend to accept... 

From your Bell film pic below... and I really am not trying to frustrate anyone... but I see these things and I don’t think they are all anomalies... Of course, we all have to make judgment calls on these things...
But I think there is some substance to the image below... When I have more time, perhaps I can explore if there are other sources to corroborate...
Perhaps the 6th Floor release can help us gain a better understanding of what we are seeing here... and at the corner of Z’s perch...