Colors of Blue and Gold

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Colors of Blue and Gold
« Reply #133 on: January 29, 2023, 09:54:49 PM »
You are from "Europe".  Right? 

You don't know the difference between living somewhere and being from somewhere?

The video of Ukranians killing Russian POWs is on You Tube.

So, it wasn't suppressed after all... So much for your BS rethoric.

Do your socialist masters allow you to access that in "Europe"?

Who exactly are my "socialist masters"?


"The UN human rights chief said on Friday that videos showing Ukrainian soldiers executing Russian prisoners of war appear to be "authentic" and called for allegations of summary executions on both sides to be fully investigated.

Volker Turk said the video, which has been circulating on social media and allegedly shows Ukrainian forces killing Russian prisoners as they lie on the ground, appeared to be “highly likely to be authentic”.


"appear to be "authentic"" ?

"appeared to be “highly likely to be authentic”."?

Wow...

But let's get real here for a minute. If Ukrainian soldiers executed Russian P.O.W.'s, it's a war crime and should be investigated, just like the countless times when Russian soldiers raped Ukrainian women, killed civilians in the streets and bombed hospitals and civilian shelters.

But you only care about a couple of Ukrainian soldiers killing 12 Russian soldiers P.O.W.'s after one of them opened fire on them, right?

Translation:  Martin who allegedly lives in "Europe" didn't realize that the Ukranians were executing POWs.  Then he claims the story wasn't being suppressed because I brought it to his attention!  HA HA HA.  Comedy gold.  You can't make that level of stupidity up. 

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Colors of Blue and Gold
« Reply #134 on: January 29, 2023, 10:25:00 PM »
Translation:  Martin who allegedly lives in "Europe" didn't realize that the Ukranians were executing POWs.  Then he claims the story wasn't being suppressed because I brought it to his attention!  HA HA HA.  Comedy gold.  You can't make that level of stupidity up.

Martin who allegedly lives in "Europe" didn't realize that the Ukranians were executing POWs.

Only an idiot would think that people living in Europe (yes, it actually exists, there's no need for quotation marks) have to be fully aware of everything that goes on in the world and/or youtube.

He doesn't even understand that, unlike him, I have a life.
 

Then he claims the story wasn't being suppressed because I brought it to his attention!

Only an idiot would think that he can claim a story is being suppressed when it can be seen on YouTube and a UN human rights chief talks about it to the media.

He clearly doesn't understand he could only point it out to me because it wasn't suppressed to begin with.


Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Colors of Blue and Gold
« Reply #135 on: January 29, 2023, 11:38:55 PM »
The US news media has an agenda on this story.  They report only news sympathetic to Ukraine.

Totally agree. I've never seen such one-sided news coverage of a war that the US wasn't directly participating in.

A few months ago, CBS retracted a news story because it mentioned that up to 30% of the aid was getting lost or not reaching Ukraine. It looked like CBS had pulled the story due to public pressure (and possibly pressure from the Biden administration). Either way, the MSM has gone out of their way to avoid negative Press about Ukraine's government.

CBS partially retracts documentary that outraged Ukraine by claiming that US weapon shipments were going missing

https://www.businessinsider.com/cbs-partially-retracts-ukraine-docuemtnary-alleging-missing-us-weapons-2022-8


Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Colors of Blue and Gold
« Reply #136 on: January 30, 2023, 12:09:24 AM »
Totally agree. I've never seen such one-sided news coverage of a war that the US wasn't directly participating in.

A few months ago, CBS retracted a news story because it mentioned that up to 30% of the aid was getting lost or not reaching Ukraine. It looked like CBS had pulled the story due to public pressure (and possibly pressure from the Biden administration). Either way, the MSM has gone out of their way to avoid negative Press about Ukraine's government.

CBS partially retracts documentary that outraged Ukraine by claiming that US weapon shipments were going missing

https://www.businessinsider.com/cbs-partially-retracts-ukraine-docuemtnary-alleging-missing-us-weapons-2022-8

It looked like CBS had pulled the story due to public pressure (and possibly pressure from the Biden administration).

It looked like? Oh well, that settles it....  :D

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Colors of Blue and Gold
« Reply #137 on: January 30, 2023, 12:44:34 AM »
It looked like CBS had pulled the story due to public pressure (and possibly pressure from the Biden administration).

It looked like? Oh well, that settles it....  :D

I honestly don’t know why CBS partially retracted the story. It was just odd that they did it following a public outcry from the Ukrainian government and their supporters.

Just one of the many unusual things about how the mainstream media has covered this his war.
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Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Colors of Blue and Gold
« Reply #138 on: January 30, 2023, 01:09:12 AM »
I honestly don’t know why CBS partially retracted the story. It was just odd that they did it following a public outcry from the Ukrainian government and their supporters.

Just one of the many unusual things about how the mainstream media has covered this his war.

Why not consider the possibility that they simply learned that the story wasn't as credible as they initially thought it was?

Offline Jon Banks

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« Reply #139 on: January 30, 2023, 01:28:11 AM »
Why not consider the possibility that they simply learned that the story wasn't as credible as they initially thought it was?

It was a very credible story. They only added a foot note that things may have improved since April 2022 when the documentary was made:

Among the material removed was a quote the founder of pro-Ukraine nonprofit Blue-Yellow, Jonas Ohman, who said in late April that only around 30% of aid was reaching the front lines in Ukraine.

CBS said that "Since that time, Ohman says delivery has improved." It also noted that the US had sent an official —  Brigadier General Garrick M. Harmon — to Kyiv specifically to monitor the use of military aid.



They never explained how much things had improved or claimed that the problem was solved.
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