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Offline Michael T. Griffith

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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #84 on: May 30, 2022, 04:59:05 PM »
Look, until someone comes up with some rational, plausible explanations for the physical impossibilities that the current Z film contains, no one can credibly claim that the film has been proved authentic.

When you point out some of these impossibilities to the film's defenders, they usually claim that they just don't see them in the first place, such as the impossibly fast movement of Brehm's son.

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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #85 on: May 30, 2022, 08:41:58 PM »
Hopefully some day technology will allow to see where the direction of the bullets came from. TBH I'm about done with the Zapruder film unless some known experts retake a look at it with new tech to see things.

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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #86 on: June 06, 2022, 11:52:13 PM »
John Mytton seems to come on routinely as the chief cook and bottle washer around here.
Yes...seriously.
Dan Rather was among the privileged few press correspondents that were given a private showing of the film back when it was solely in the hands of the Time-Life outfit. Few know what he reported..."Upon viewing the president's head shot---JFK could be seen slumping forward." Is that what we see in that film? Maybe he saw a different copy? ???

There is an interview transcript of Dan Rather that, if it is verifiable, makes a strong case for there being no incontrovertible
chain of custody of the Zapruder Film in between its removal from Zapruder's camera to Richard Stolley taking possession
of it.

Interesting comments from the "Transcript of HSCA Critics' Conference of 17 Sep 1977"
(My comment: It is almost as if Henry Wade cooperated in the "lockdown" of the Zapruder Film by avoiding subpoenaing it into evidence)
...Dallas Police were legally the investigating agency of a state crime, murder, but were not provided with a copy of the Zapruder Film, evidence somehow controlled by a private company, Time-Life. Thompson contradicts Mary Ferrell's opinion that the Zapruder film was developed by Jamieson Film Labs, mention is made of Dan Rather's unique claims in his then new book, conflicting with Forest Sorrel's WC testimony, Ms. Ferrell shares that "an old Chrysler Vice-President" she hosted in 1968, recalled visiting Jamieson in late 1963 because his sister worked there and viewing a copy of the Zapruder film. His sister had a copy, "all of them had copies of it." :
www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10375#relPageId=148

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https://quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/2015/05/dan-rather-tales.html
By Linda Minor - May 28, 2022
"...Is it not a strange coincidence that Herskowitz, chosen to write Dan's book, The Camera Never Blinks, which was published in 1976, would later work for the Bush family? Perhaps not, considering the closeness of Prescott Bush to the CBS founder, William S. Paley. Consider this small detail from IMDb's biography of George H. W. Bush:
Prescott Bush (Yale 1917) made his fortune and name as an investment banker on Wall St., eventually becoming a partner of the white shoe brokerage Brown Bros. Harriman. He was a member of the Yale Corp., the principal governing body of Yale University, from 1944 to 1956 and was on the board of directors of the Columbia Broadcasting System (C.B.S.), after having been introduced to C.B.S. Chairman William Paley in 1932 by his friend and business partner [in investment bank, Brown Brothers Harriman] Averell Harriman, a major Democratic party power-broker.


C.D. Jackson, who headed Time, Inc., which owned Life magazine, had handled intelligence and propaganda assignments during WWII. In 1943 he was in Turkey for the State Department and Board of Economic Warfare before going to the Office of War Information with his friend William Paley. They were both assigned to Eisenhower’s command in Europe to operate the Psychological Warfare Branch of the Army.

After the 1952 election Jackson became Eisenhower’s special assistant for cold war planning and, while on leave from Fortune, a Luce publication, he handled clandestine propaganda operations in Eastern Europe within the National Committee for a Free Europe. He also participated in the report prepared by William Harding Jackson (no relation), which resulted in reorganizing Truman’s Psychological Strategy Board into a new “Operations Coordinating Board” within the National Security Council. [See Michael S. Mayer, The Eisenhower Years (2009).]

Walter Cronkite had been placed in charge of the CBS Evening News in 1962. Also a Texan, Cronkite had graduated from San Jacinto High School in Houston in 1933 before attending the University of Texas for just over two years, dropping out in 1935. ...

As recently as 18 years ago, Dan Rather was on record claiming to have had sole custody of the original, preprocessed
Zapruder film as well as immediately after it was processed, to the extent he claimed to have passed up the opportunity to make a copy for himself / CBS, as well as to view the processed film before it went into the post processed possession of Zapruder. Rather's excuses were that it would have been illegal and unethical.

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Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #87 on: June 07, 2022, 01:08:59 AM »
:D

The larger piece of skull seems to be a match to the Limo skull gif.

This is the first time that i have seen any mention that the Zapruder footage shows that chunk of spinning skull. Made my day. Good job.
I guess that the chunk shows up very well koz it bounced offa Connally's seat (& praps the limo) & then hung in the air for a while.
Has there been any mention that the small circled area possibly shows the damage/hole made by the exiting remnant of Hickey's AR15 slug?
The slug veered say 6 deg inside the skull & then made a spider crack in the windshield glass just left of the mirror.
After which the slug probly bounced backwards out of the limo & out onto the street, & was never found.
Or, it was found inside the limo, & was kept secret.

Silly me. I was starting to think that the chunk of skull would surely have been found by Hicky when he was picking up his say 6 smelly hot empty casings offa the floor on that side of the limo, & then i realized that he was in the Queen Mary not the jfklimo. Silly me. I am getting old.
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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #88 on: August 06, 2022, 08:52:10 PM »
When someone explains the technical indications of alteration in the Zapruder film, then we can proceed from there. But so far the film's defenders have been unable to explain those indications.

And then there's the impossibly fast movement of Brehm's son, which has been discussed in detail. I continue to challenge anyone to do a reenactment with a child of the same approximate height and weight and show that those movements can be carried out in the time they are done in the film. It's impossible. I tried with one of my sons. He could not even come close to duplicating those movements in the required amount of time.


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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #89 on: August 08, 2022, 04:10:21 AM »

Look, until someone comes up with some rational, plausible explanations for the physical impossibilities that the current Z film contains, no one can credibly claim that the film has been proved authentic.

When you point out some of these impossibilities to the film's defenders, they usually claim that they just don't see them in the first place, such as the impossibly fast movement of Brehm's son.

When someone explains the technical indications of alteration in the Zapruder film, then we can proceed from there. But so far the film's defenders have been unable to explain those indications.

And then there's the impossibly fast movement of Brehm's son, which has been discussed in detail. I continue to challenge anyone to do a reenactment with a child of the same approximate height and weight and show that those movements can be carried out in the time they are done in the film. It's impossible. I tried with one of my sons. He could not even come close to duplicating those movements in the required amount of time.


(John Mytton)

It seems us LNers, like John Mytton, Jerry Organ and myself, are limited by our inability to see things that aren’t there. I can assure you, at least for myself, I really don’t see any ‘impossibly fast’ movement from Charles Brehm’s son. I’m not pretending I don’t. I just don’t see it.

Questions for Michael T. Griffith:

Exactly, what is it about Charles Brehm’s son’s motion that is impossibly fast? The speed his torso moves? His arms speed? His hands speed? What?

Which post have you discussed this in detail before?

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Re: Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!
« Reply #90 on: August 08, 2022, 07:25:48 PM »
It seems us LNers, like John Mytton, Jerry Organ and myself, are limited by our inability to see things that aren’t there. I can assure you, at least for myself, I really don’t see any ‘impossibly fast’ movement from Charles Brehm’s son. I’m not pretending I don’t. I just don’t see it.

Questions for Michael T. Griffith:

Exactly, what is it about Charles Brehm’s son’s motion that is impossibly fast? The speed his torso moves? His arms speed? His hands speed? What?

Which post have you discussed this in detail before?


  I am wondering the same thing, Joe.  I watched this Z film clip provided by Jerry, and then I went to watch it in the Marie Muchmore film, and I see nothing indicating any "Impossibly fast" movement by Joe Brehm either.  I also noticed as the limousine passes him, Chuck Brehm leans to his left as the car passes, putting his weight on his left leg, and this is all occurring as Joe Brehm steps out from behind his dad.  But, I agree with you.  Nothing "Impossibly fast" regarding Joe Brehm stepping out from behind his dad at all.