Simple proof that the Zapruder film is 100% Authentic!

[John Mytton]

An innocent error of accidentally putting a reply inside the quote tags.  Nothing to get worked up about.

 

The fact that he really cared and was so passionate about unintentionally offending a fellow member really makes such an emotional difference around here, because Otto, Walt, Mondo, Weidmann, etc with their insults, angry replies and an unhealthy overreliance on acronyms stops this place being all warm and cozy. LOL LMFAO ROFL YAWN!

JohnM

[Allan Fritzke]

I have to go with Jerry Freeman post on the roses!

Assume Zapruder frames at 18fps and shot at Z313.    The car is moving forward at 10 mph.  No visible sign of this brain matter until Z321 and Z314 and then it hangs in  the roses for about 4 frames and remains almost stationary with roses.  Total time is somewhere near 1/2 a second and there is no visible fragment flying through the air from JFK's head to that position.  The frame next to Z314 shows no evidence of  a trajectory. Either it was travelling awfully fast and gone within a frame or.....

Coincidentally, you see a group of roses and camera shake in this region.  Certainly looks like part of the group of roses to me.   When you see JFK raise his arm, his leg also flew up, pushing the roses up.  Visibly arm comes up and I am inferring so does the leg before it goes limp.

In fact when you look at the sequence from Z320 to Z323, the "aberration" appears to be growing "up" and not falling down.  (Analysis from the Lightbox Frames).   Then it falls back down between Z324 and Z326 and then Z327 becomes a black hole on the door frame! It  bleeds into the car body frame!   Pretty hard not to see the anomaly appearing as it progressively was getting larger before it shrank below view.   Of course their are cuts on the film as well in these frames.

 It is pretty hard to follow your trajectory path as you see Point A and Point B and absolutely nothing in between!    There should be evidence in the primary frames in between of it flying through the air even if it was a saucer and be caught by light. Unfortunately none of this can be seen in the film to back up your argument.  Not saying it isn't possible if certain frames were doctored.  Oops.  I forget.  No doctoring of Zapruder film!!!   Tore a few times and just badly scratched up with vertical angled lines.  Thats another debate (next post!)

[Allan Fritzke]

Doctoring of the Zapruder Film.  Here is a prime example. If they can do this here, where else can they do it and make it ingeniously blend in?  Note the flag and the waterspot just above it that turns to a fleshy color.  Was this a film spice, a license plate splice or cutting or an obscurement or movement of people in the scene? Maybe the feet in the scene should have been at the waterspot and match their shadow?





Maybe they were just obscuring the license plate numbers so you couldn't trace them!  Those definitely look like cut lines on Z225.  Again, the background figures are hideous.  They appear to be clapping.  Well that could be, but they are also in the right place to make a presidential interception when JFK is right behind the sign and the first shot comes in.  It would work great having everyone's attention fixed on Cuban and the umbrella man on the other side of the road!   To make matters worse, those figures don't appear to be following the car with their gaze and the figure at the front quickly puts his hand directly behind his back.  Must have had an itchy spot!    Not sure what these characters were doing and who they were.  Garry Unger's picks up some black in those frames.  Anything cut or modified?  Thanks to Garry Unger's Pictures!  The others don't show the shadows!  The stance doesn't match the body position either!







It would be interesting to see a gif zoomed on these characters!

[John Mytton]

I have to go with Jerry Freeman post on the roses!

 

The larger piece of skull seems to be a match to the Limo skull gif.



As the skull fragment tumbles down we can see the same long edge which has the same depth as a piece of skull with sun reflecting off it's shiny surface.



JohnM

[Allan Fritzke]

Going through my collection I found some interesting graphics that prove all sorts of things.

This autopsy photo showing the irregular torn scalp matches the same injury as seen in the Moorman photo.



This forensic simulation using a replica ballistic head demonstrates a similar result to what is seen in Zapruder.



For any rational sane person the fact that the Nix film shows the exact same event from a completely different perspective proves the Zapruder film is 100% authentic!





The first eyewitnesses who saw the assassination from right up close ALL describe the exact same expulsion of matter as seen in the authenticated Zapruder Film.



In the centre frame in this Gif right next to Jackie's left shoulder, a piece of brain/skull is seen hurtling towards the floor.





The blood spray dissipation seen in this hunting video is replicated in the Zapruder film.



JohnM

You have presented a very nice gif which does not match the autopsy picture.  According to the autopsy picture,  the scalp is hinged at the back and yet region covered with hair where it has come from!  It is not naturally rolling over the ear and down to the front, that requires a different hinge poitn.  When you look at the gif, the "scalp?" is falling towards the front and over the ear and not to the back where it appears to still be attached to on the autopsy picture.  Totally different hinge point from my perspective as to where it remains attached to the head.  Which do you choose as I fail to relate the images and find congruency.   The autopsy shows hair? across the region as well where the hinged piece is rolled back from.  Also curious where that excess hair is from across the wound?

If the autopsy is correct, it looks more like a storm gutter shot coming from street level, throwing the head back towards Jacqueline as the head moves in her direction.   This also would account for that hair you see moving up in the Nix Film flying towards Jacqueline when shot comes in.  I could argue the deposits on the seat between JFK and Jacqueline drop out from Z331 to Z337 (7 frames) just after the Z329/330  shot coming through the windshield. Obviously the windshield glass spray aberration across the black suited front passenger gets picked up by the light and becomes the meaningful tattletale in my conclusion.   Assuming same limo speed in both cases, 14 frames occurred before the rose disappears below the door frame.  Blood spots appear across Jacqueline's arm/dress background at Z330 and 7 frames later this material is below camera view door frame level.  Quite a difference in frames (7 vs 14) which leads me to believe you are looking at the roses in the first instance!

[Steve Barber]

Doctoring of the Zapruder Film.  Here is a prime example. If they can do this here, where else can they do it and make it ingeniously blend in?  Note the flag and the waterspot just above it that turns to a fleshy color.  Was this a film spice, a license plate splice or cutting or an obscurement or movement of people in the scene? Maybe the feet in the scene should have been at the waterspot and match their shadow?





Maybe they were just obscuring the license plate numbers so you couldn't trace them!  Those definitely look like cut lines on Z225.  Again, the background figures are hideous.  They appear to be clapping.  Well that could be, but they are also in the right place to make a presidential interception when JFK is right behind the sign and the first shot comes in.  It would work great having everyone's attention fixed on Cuban and the umbrella man on the other side of the road!   To make matters worse, those figures don't appear to be following the car with their gaze and the figure at the front quickly puts his hand directly behind his back.  Must have had an itchy spot!    Not sure what these characters were doing and who they were.  Garry Unger's picks up some black in those frames.  Anything cut or modified?  Thanks to Garry Unger's Pictures!  The others don't show the shadows!  The stance doesn't match the body position either!







It would be interesting to see a gif zoomed on these characters!

  Here's something that will help you.  The film has never been "doctored" by anyone.  It is what it is and was when Zapruder made the film on 11/22/1963..  Copies of the film were made on the day of the assassination at the time the film was developed.  Two copies were given to the Secret Service, and Zapruder retained one copy for himself--only because it contained a lot of family film before it reached 11/22/1963.   Robert Groden released a video in 1996 titled "The Assassination Films" on VHS.  Within the video is the undamaged copy of the film, with no frames missing, no mold spots (Which is what is seen in the original), just a clean copy of the film.  Naturally, it isn't AS clear and sharp as the original, but it is clear enough.  I believe the DVD release of the video is under the title The Assassination Files" now. However, the DVD is inferior to the VHS copy, due to Groden having copied the VHS version onto DVD, where a LOT of clarity and sharpness is lost compared to the VHS, which is no longer in circulation, and is extremely hard to find.  Stupidly, I sold my copy of the VHS to a gentleman who is/was a member of this forum within the last few years because he said he needed it for a project, and not knowing that the VHS was out of circulation and out of print-I let it go fo a mere $20.00.  He, meanwhile, told me that he would send me a sample of what his project was.  He left the forum and I never saw what he was working on.  It was then that I realized that I should never have sold my VHS copy of the video.  At least you can still find the DVD version on Amazon.  https://www.amazon.com/JFK-Assassination-Files-Case-Conspiracy/dp/B0000DC14U 

[John Mytton]

Over at the Ed Forum they are jizzing over this Zapruder frame(the insert) showing the back of Kennedy's head which looks to have a black patch and this image has supposedly been logarithmically colour corrected from a iirc a third generational copy but the colours and contrast have been favourably enhanced to exaggerate this patch, for instance the grass and basically everything else has a red tinge.
Kennedy's hair was short and appeared dark at the back and on the sides, and was longer and lighter on top.



JohnM