Geneva Hine

[Mitch Todd]

Did any other witness claim that Oswald was in the 6th floor window aiming a rifle?

Trying to change the subject just makes you look even more foolish and out of your depth.

Did anyone else in the TSBD during the assassination say the lights went out?

[John Mytton]

Did any other witness claim that Oswald was in the 6th floor window aiming a rifle?

Wow, you get asked a simple question and go off topic?
Just admit that as far as you know nobody else said the lights went out and let's just leave it at that, eh?

JohnM

[Mitch Todd]

The "association" is all in your mind.  "The lights went out AND the phones became dead".  Two different clauses.

The word "AND," which you so helpfully capitalized, is precisely what creates the association between "the lights went out" and "the phones became dead." By definition. If you don't like it blame Miriam Webster, not me. And there are more than two clauses in the sentence. The important ones are "the lights all went out and the phones became dead because the motorcade was coming near us and no one was calling".

Later on, she makes the same association between the lights coming on and phone calls coming in: "the telephones were beginning to wink; outside calls were beginning to come in"

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

An old saw that simply isn't true. Absence of evidence is most definitely evidence of absence. After, if something is absent in the first place then there will be no evidence of it being there. I think you mean that absence of evidence is not absolute proof of absence, since there may be some unknown factor that bears on the situation under examination. Even then, this is only true if there are unknown factors.

[Bill Brown]

   
Geneva Hine gives her testimony to the Warren Commission on April 7, 1964. If one reads her testimony and relates it to the second floor plan of the TSBD, it is apparent that she is looking out the east window of their office (overlooking Houston Street) as JFK’s limo is traveling north on Houston Street and turning west on Elm Street. She would not be able to follow it any further than when it disappears behind the southeast corner of the TSBD from her point of view.
You quite misunderstood this Mr Collins.
Reading further....Ms Hine could only see people 'falling down...lying on the sidewalk' looking west. She was obviously looking out from the easterly window south across Elm and misstated the direction that Elm goes. She knew which way the motorcade was going and of course would not be looking across at the Dal-Tex building.
That's all.
Except..."*until the lights all went out and the phones became dead" ----
Why did this happen don't we wonder? 

Ms Hine could only see people 'falling down...lying on the sidewalk' looking west.

This is simply not true.  Mrs. Hine could have been looking out the window facing east and saw people duck for cover on the sidewalk along Elm, east of the Elm/Houston intersection; unless of course you think that the only people who could have possibly dropped to the ground were those seen in films and photos of the area down closer to the knoll/pergola.

"*until the lights all went out and the phones became dead" ----
Why did this happen don't we wonder?

Richard Smith already adequately explained this to you.

The phones were not ringing and therefore they were not lighting up.  Why is this so difficult?  What are you implying?  Conspirators completely shut down power inside the building?

C'mon Man.

[Bill Brown]

I was going to jump in on this thread and try to correct some of the absurdity here, but no need.  It is clear that Charles Collins, Richard Smith, John Mytton and Mitch Todd have already dealt with it.

Honestly, I can't believe I'm actually reading these lame ass arguments made by the others in this thread.  Just Wow.

[Charles Collins]

I was going to jump in on this thread and try to correct some of the absurdity here, but no need.  It is clear that Charles Collins, Richard Smith, John Mytton and Mitch Todd have already dealt with it.

Honestly, I can't believe I'm actually reading these lame ass arguments made by the others in this thread.  Just Wow.

What is even more difficult to believe is that these others actually believe that they have a legitimate argument. Some of them will even try to claim victory. To quote Pete Seeger’s song: when will you ever learn, when will you ever learn?

[John Iacoletti]

Trying to change the subject just makes you look even more foolish and out of your depth.

Did anyone else in the TSBD during the assassination say the lights went out?

It’s not a change of subject. The “did any other witness say..” counterargument is fallacious. We’re talking about what Hine said. You act like you not only can read her mind retroactively, but you also know what her phone looked like.