The Curious Case Of Arnold Rowland

[Rick Plant]

Arnold Rowland's voluntary statement.

[Jack Nessan]

So you too believe in the Miracle On Elm Street.
You believe that Rowland makes up a description of a man on the 6th floor that is almost exactly the same as three other eye-witnesses.
That he makes up a story about a man holding a scoped rifle on the 6th floor and by some miraculous coincidence there is indeed a man on the 6th floor with a scoped rifle.
You really believe that?

It doesn’t matter if you like the WC or not, it is absolutely appalling to read his testimony and realize he thought so little of the whole affair that he felt he could make up whatever he wanted and waste everyone’s time. He screws the description of the man with the rifle in the frame of the window so bad that he is asked if he was ever in the TSBD. The WC members knew the configuration of the windows and knew how totally wrong his description was. The window starts 14 inches above the floor.

Mr. Specter.
And how much, if any, of his body was obscured by the window frame from that point down to the floor?
Mr. Rowland.
From where I was standing I could see from his head to about 6 inches below his waist, below his belt.
Mr. Specter.
Could you see as far as his knees?
Mr. Rowland.
No.
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Rowland does not describe anyone. He describes this person as a heavy 200 lb slender man that weighs approximately 140 lbs and he is either tall or maybe not. He describes an individual standing with his left hand on the upper rifle stock with both his left hand and elbow at shoulder height. He then goes on to describe the rifle as pointing to the wall. Which is impossible because the wall is to his right not left. Rowland describes the man holding the rifle entirely different but states he held it that way the whole time.


“Mr. ROWLAND - He was rather slender in proportion to his size. I couldn't tell for sure whether he was tall and maybe, you know heavy, say 200 pounds, but tall whether he would be and slender or whether he was medium and slender, but in proportion to his size his build was slender.”

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“Mr. SPECTER - Were you able to form any opinion as to the weight of the man in addition to the line of proportion which you have already described?
Mr. ROWLAND - I would say about 140 to 150 pounds”


Mr. SPECTER - Could you give us an estimate on his height?
Mr. ROWLAND - No; I couldn't. That is why I said I can't state what height he would be. He was just slender in build in proportion with his width. This is something I find myself doing all the time, comparing things in perspective.
Mr. SPECTER - Was he a white man or a Negro or what?
Mr. ROWLAND - Seemed, well, I can't state definitely from my position because it was more or less not fully light or bright in the room. He appeared to be fair complexioned, not fair, but light complexioned, but dark hair.

Mr. SPECTER - What race was he then?
Mr. ROWLAND - I would say either a light Latin or a Caucasian.

The thing that should be remembered is there are pictures of the witnesses were together at the Dallas Sheriff's office and could hear each other give statements.

[Dan O'meara]

It's a waste of time going through the desperate distortions of Rowland's witness testimony LNers have to apply to try and make the almost miraculous coincidence of the man with the rifle go away. The feigned objectivity on show is a joke as there is a bottom line - LNers need Rowland to go away. His testimony completely undermines the established narrative to such an extent it would completely unravel. That is the light in which the last posts must be viewed.
But there is a potentially a way to resolve the issue - from my perspective at least. Unlike the LNers on display, I actually want to know what really happened that day and am willing to have my working hypothesis tested in such a way I believe it will resolve the issue of Rowland's witness testimony.
Unfortunately, the test I have in mind is way beyond my skill-set and I would call on those with the requisite 3D modelling skills to undertake this challenge if willing.

It is my opinion the man with the rifle is Jack Dougherty.
On his draft card it states Dougherty is 6 feet, one and a half inches in height at the age of 18.
For argument's sake, let's say Dougherty is 6' 2" at the time of the assassination.
In his testimony Rowland states that the sun "hit him [the man with the rifle] about from the shoulders down".

Using 3D modelling, the test is as follows:
At 12:15 pm the sun is slanting through the south-west window of the 6th floor of the TSBD at a specific angle.
How far back from the window would a man of 6' 2" be stood when the sun was "from the shoulders down"?
More importantly, what would Rowland be seeing from his location through the open window (assuming the man is placed in such a position that he is in Rowland's LoS)?

If this situation can be successfully modeled it would throw light on some very important issues regarding Rowland's testimony, the LN narrative and, less importantly, my own opinions.
I acknowledge it is an imposition on other forum members to undertake this task but, as I say, it is way beyond my own ability.

[Jack Nessan]

It's a waste of time going through the desperate distortions of Rowland's witness testimony LNers have to apply to try and make the almost miraculous coincidence of the man with the rifle go away. The feigned objectivity on show is a joke as there is a bottom line - LNers need Rowland to go away. His testimony completely undermines the established narrative to such an extent it would completely unravel. That is the light in which the last posts must be viewed.
But there is a potentially a way to resolve the issue - from my perspective at least. Unlike the LNers on display, I actually want to know what really happened that day and am willing to have my working hypothesis tested in such a way I believe it will resolve the issue of Rowland's witness testimony.
Unfortunately, the test I have in mind is way beyond my skill-set and I would call on those with the requisite 3D modelling skills to undertake this challenge if willing.

Specter made Rowland's testimony go away by keeping him talking and asking him questions. Rowland did the rest. BRW did not see a soul there. No one. He was as close as you were going to get. Rowland's testimony just proved BRW was correct.

It is my opinion the man with the rifle is Jack Dougherty.
On his draft card it states Dougherty is 6 feet, one and a half inches in height at the age of 18.
For argument's sake, let's say Dougherty is 6' 2" at the time of the assassination.
In his testimony Rowland states that the sun "hit him [the man with the rifle] about from the shoulders down".

Using 3D modelling, the test is as follows:
At 12:15 pm the sun is slanting through the south-west window of the 6th floor of the TSBD at a specific angle.
How far back from the window would a man of 6' 2" be stood when the sun was "from the shoulders down"?
More importantly, what would Rowland be seeing from his location through the open window (assuming the man is placed in such a position that he is in Rowland's LoS)?

If this situation can be successfully modeled it would throw light on some very important issues regarding Rowland's testimony, the LN narrative and, less importantly, my own opinions.
I acknowledge it is an imposition on other forum members to undertake this task but, as I say, it is way beyond my own ability.

[Jerry Freeman]

To begin with, Rowland wasn't "mercilessly grilled." He was questioned with about the same intensity as any of the other witnesses.

How would you know?  By your own admission, you haven't even read the testimony of the witnesses.

Initially, I didn't have an issue with what Rowland said. Then again, I was relying on the story second hand, only taking in what different authors had to say on the matter. Then I actually bothered to read Rowland's testimony. On his own, he raised a number of red flags. His claims: to have super human vision 

You mean after 60 years you just now got around to reading the Warren Report? And where did Rowland claim to have 'super human' vision? You red flag gaslighter with your second hand copy of 'Case Closed' you

Mr. SPECTER - What is the condition of your eyesight?
Mr. ROWLAND - Very good.
Mr. SPECTER - Do you wear glasses at any time?
Mr. ROWLAND - No.
Mr. SPECTER - When, most recently, have you had an eye test, if at all?
Mr. ROWLAND - About 7 months ago.
Mr. SPECTER - And you know the results of that test?
Mr. ROWLAND - Very good vision.
Mr. SPECTER - Do you know what classification the doctor placed on it?
Mr. ROWLAND - No: I don't remember it.
Mr. SPECTER - Do you recollect if it was 2020?
Mr. ROWLAND - He said it was much better than that.
Mr. SPECTER - And what doctor examined your eyes?
Mr. ROWLAND - This was the firm of doctors Finn and Finn.
Mr. SPECTER - F-i-n-n and F-i-n-n?
Mr. ROWLAND - Yes.
Mr. SPECTER - Where are they located?
Mr. ROWLAND - The Fidelity Union Life Building in Dallas.
Mr. SPECTER - Approximately how long ago was that examination?
Mr. ROWLAND - About 6 months.

And what was the doctor's nurse's name? How old was the doctor? How long was he in practice.......?? I can gaslight too.
What other witness were so grilled about their vision?
Rick Plant thinks we are all blind [by the size of his link] so I will reduce it for him.

I see that Mr Organ has gone back in his time machine to visually recreate everything for us.

[John Iacoletti]

To begin with, Rowland wasn't "mercilessly grilled." He was questioned with about the same intensity as any of the other witnesses.

Bull.  I don't recall them questioning Howard Brennan's wife about his reliability or pulling his school records.  Or challenging anything he said during his testimony.

[John Iacoletti]

And there are still the issues with Rowland moving the gunman, adding the "elderly negro" late in the game, and the impossible 18" gap between the man's head and the bottom of the window sill.

And yet none of this same skepticism applied to Brennan seeing a man in firing position for the head shot "from the belt up".