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Online David Von Pein

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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #272 on: February 07, 2022, 09:21:38 PM »
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It just highlights the impossible standard of proof that you [Martin Weidmann] apply to evidence of Oswald's guilt.   It's so silly that I can't really believe you are serious.  Rather, this is just some hobby to pass the time by playing the contrarian.  No one could possibly believe this nonsense.

Amen to that, Richard!!!

CTers have been in total denial concerning Oswald's rifle purchase for many years now, with that "denial" status reaching humongous proportions since the burgeoning of the Internet.

It's rather humorous to note that in the topsy-turvy world of Internet conspiracy fantasists, something that is (as Joseph Ball correctly pointed out to Mark Lane in December of 1964) "a conclusive fact" (that fact being: Lee Harvey Oswald ordered, paid for, and took possession of Mannlicher-Carcano Rifle No. C2766 in late March 1963) is considered by CTers to be something that has no evidence whatsoever to back up the claim.....but something else that relies on some of the flimsiest evidence in the whole case---such as the "Grassy Knoll Gunman" theory---is treated by conspiracy theorists as if it had the word of God Himself to back up its validity.

Topsy-turvy indeed.

Full Joe Ball quote regarding Oswald's rifle purchase:

"I've never heard such a major distortion of what is actually a conclusive fact." -- Joseph A. Ball; 12/4/64


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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #272 on: February 07, 2022, 09:21:38 PM »


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #273 on: February 07, 2022, 09:56:40 PM »
Oswald authenticated the entire assassination all by himself.
Easy as pie. Piece of cake. Slam dunk.

Booyah.

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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #274 on: February 07, 2022, 11:05:03 PM »
None of your click bait is verification of serial and control numbers supplied by Klein's/FBI.

You fail again since that's what you're best at.

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Just like I said ---
"CTers have been in total denial concerning Oswald's rifle purchase for many years now."

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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #274 on: February 07, 2022, 11:05:03 PM »


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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #275 on: February 07, 2022, 11:20:52 PM »
At the link below, I have compiled a few questions for Buell Wesley Frazier. I would like it very much if Buell could some day answer these inquiries:

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2022/01/jfk-assassination-arguments-part-1349.html

From the link:

"#3. Don't you ever wonder, Buell, why Lee Oswald told you that big fat lie about the "curtain rods"? And he twice told that lie to you—once on Thursday morning (November 21st) and then again on the morning of November 22nd when you and he got into your car at your sister's house.

We know now that Lee's "curtain rods" story was definitely a lie. We know this because....

....No curtain rods were ever found inside the Book Depository after the assassination."


In the light of your calamitously unsuccessful attempts earlier in this thread to offer a convincing explanation of the document below, Mr Von Pein, you need to do the honorable thing and delete the above as an unsafe claim



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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #276 on: February 07, 2022, 11:41:33 PM »
A prosecutor [because that's what Ball was in this case] calling something a "conclusive fact" doesn't make it so. But there is no surprise that Ball would say that. He wrote the chapter on Oswald's guilt, so what else was he going to say? He also said that Oswald was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, yet he failed to convince the majority of the American people. So, Ball's opinion is just that; an opinion.

This is the same man who called Helen Markham an "utter screwball" yet at the same time considered her testimony to be reliable. That alone tells you all you need to know about Joseph Ball!

Btw LNs whining about a so-called "impossible standard of proof being applied to evidence of Oswald's guilt" is hilarious and sad at the same time. It's like a prosecutor complaining to the judge about the jury because his arguments (which he himself finds amazingly powerful) fail to convince the jurors. It is in fact an implicit recognition of the weakness of the prosecution's case.

The fact that those highly skilled lawyers of the WC were willing to blindly accept, without any kind of authentication, a couple of photocopies (which even Lyndal Shaneyfelt admitted, during the mock trial, can easilybe tampered with) taken from a microfilm that has since gone missing, as a so-called "conclusive fact" only exposes the desperation they had to wrap the case around Oswald as tight as they could. No competent prosecutor would have dared to present something as pathetic and weak as this in court.


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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #277 on: February 08, 2022, 03:39:55 AM »
[DVP asked...]

"#3. Don't you ever wonder, Buell, why Lee Oswald told you that big fat lie about the "curtain rods"? And he twice told that lie to you—once on Thursday morning (November 21st) and then again on the morning of November 22nd when you and he got into your car at your sister's house. We know now that Lee's "curtain rods" story was definitely a lie. We know this because....No curtain rods were ever found inside the Book Depository after the assassination."

In the light of your calamitously unsuccessful attempts earlier in this thread to offer a convincing explanation of the document below, Mr Von Pein, you need to do the honorable thing and delete the above as an unsafe claim

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Alan,

Please tell us what connection there is between the Ruth Paine curtain rods that you seem to be fixated on and the "curtain rods" that Lee Oswald lied about?

Even with a date discrepancy on the document you've posted many times now, tell us what the connection is.

Do you think Oswald DID take some rods into the TSBD and then the cops took them back to Ruth's garage?

Enlighten us all as you answer the proverbial question that can be asked of nearly all conspiracy theorists whenever they start talking about their murky theories----with that question being:

Where are you going with this?
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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #278 on: February 08, 2022, 07:26:41 AM »
There's no supporting evidence for the claim that Oswald lied about any curtain rods.

Classic CTer/Beck denial. As always.
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Re: Questions For Buell Wesley Frazier
« Reply #279 on: February 08, 2022, 07:52:49 AM »
Your claim remains unsupported.

It's supported by Buell Frazier.

Next?
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