Why classify information?

[Martin Weidmann]

Numerous ballistics experts from both the FBI and HSCA inquiry identify the rifle found on the 6th floor as being the weapon that had been fired during the assassination to "the exclusion of all others". LHO's palm print was found on the barrel of the rifle discovered on the 6th floor. LHO's prints were found on the bag discovered in the SN. LHO's prints were on the boxes used to make the rifle rest. LHO's PO Box was used as the delivery point for the rifle. The alias used to purchase the rifle was on an indentity card in his possession when arrested. LHO was known to possess this rifle and had already attempted to murder another individual earlier. LHO has no alibi during the assassination and also told Postal Inspector Holmes he came down to the second floor after the assassination.

Your answer to all this information is just you don't know but you don't think so. It is kind of like the Adams and Styles nonsense where you unwittingly and unknowingly produced a WC statement from Officer Barnett that proved Adams and Styles did not leave as quickly as they thought, and you were just wrong about all of it.

It is kind of like the Adams and Styles nonsense where you unwittingly and unknowingly produced a WC statement from Officer Barnett that proved Adams and Styles did not leave as quickly as they thought, and you were just wrong about all of it.


Hey fool, when I am wrong about something, I admit and accept it. I misread the date on one document, which was only a minor part of the story. So, what? The remainder of the story still stands to this date. What do you call somebody who dismisses an entire story out of hand just because one minor detail was wrong?.....

As for the remainder of your post, you sound like every other LN who parrots BS without questioning any of it.

Numerous ballistics experts from both the FBI and HSCA inquiry identify the rifle found on the 6th floor as being the weapon that had been fired during the assassination to "the exclusion of all others".

No ballistic expert from both the FBI and HSCA inquiry ever identified the rifle found on the 6th floor as being the weapon that had been fired during the assassination to "the exclusion of all others". But feel free to prove me wong, by providing one report, just one, in which that claim is made.

LHO's palm print was found on the barrel of the rifle discovered on the 6th floor.

Repeating a bogus claim doesn't make it magically come true.

LHO's prints were found on the bag discovered in the SN. LHO's prints were on the boxes used to make the rifle rest. LHO's PO Box was used as the delivery point for the rifle. The alias used to purchase the rifle was on an indentity card in his possession when arrested. LHO was known to possess this rifle and had already attempted to murder another individual earlier. LHO has no alibi during the assassination and also told Postal Inspector Holmes he came down to the second floor after the assassination.

I'm not going to bother to reply to the rest of these superficial claims as there would be no point. You will just repeat the same crap next time around anyway. The propensity for a rush to judgment as you display here is beyond belief.

[Jack Nessan]

It is kind of like the Adams and Styles nonsense where you unwittingly and unknowingly produced a WC statement from Officer Barnett that proved Adams and Styles did not leave as quickly as they thought, and you were just wrong about all of it.


Hey fool, when I am wrong about something, I admit and accept it. I misread the date on one document, which was only a minor part of the story. So, what? The remainder of the story still stands to this date. What do you call somebody who dismisses an entire story out of hand just because one minor detail was wrong?.....

As for the remainder of your post, you sound like every other LN who parrots BS without questioning any of it.

Numerous ballistics experts from both the FBI and HSCA inquiry identify the rifle found on the 6th floor as being the weapon that had been fired during the assassination to "the exclusion of all others".

No ballistic expert from both the FBI and HSCA inquiry ever identified the rifle found on the 6th floor as being the weapon that had been fired during the assassination to "the exclusion of all others". But feel free to prove me wong, by providing one report, just one, in which that claim is made.

LHO's palm print was found on the barrel of the rifle discovered on the 6th floor.

Repeating a bogus claim doesn't make it magically come true.

LHO's prints were found on the bag discovered in the SN. LHO's prints were on the boxes used to make the rifle rest. LHO's PO Box was used as the delivery point for the rifle. The alias used to purchase the rifle was on an indentity card in his possession when arrested. LHO was known to possess this rifle and had already attempted to murder another individual earlier. LHO has no alibi during the assassination and also told Postal Inspector Holmes he came down to the second floor after the assassination.

I'm not going to bother to reply to the rest of these superficial claims as there would be no point. You will just repeat the same crap next time around anyway. The propensity for a rush to judgment as you display here is beyond belief.

You have never admitted to anything and you are not admitting now. This posted nonsense has nothing to do with Officer Barnett's actions. Report? There was Barnett's testimony about his actions and movements post shots and his actions were completely contrary to your belief in Adams and Styles early departure from their office. The best part was you posted it and you did not realize that fact. Now it is to be seen if you admit you were wrong about the rifle.

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The rifle found on the 6th floor was fired from the 6th floor window and caused all the wounds.

There is so little actual physical evidence of the assassination.  There is a bullet, bullet fragments, shells, and a rifle. How could anyone know so little about them yet be constantly posting like you are an expert?

Frazier stating the bullet and bullet fragments, beyond any doubt, came from the rifle found on the 6th floor. The HSCA firearms experts agreed. I thought everyone knew this.

Mr. EISENBERG - Did you examine this? Is this a bullet fragment, Mr. Frazier?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir. This consists of a piece of the jacket portion of a bullet from the nose area and a piece of the lead core from under the jacket.
Mr. EISENBERG - How were you able to conclude it is part of the nose area?
Mr. FRAZIER - Because of the rifling marks which extend part way up the side, and then have the characteristic leading edge impressions and no longer continue along the bullet, and by the fact that the bullet has a rounded contour to it which has not been mutilated.
Mr. EISENBERG - Did you examine this bullet to determine whether it had been fired from Exhibit 139 to the exclusion of all other weapons?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG - What was your conclusion?
Mr. FRAZIER - This bullet fragment was fired in this rifle, 139.

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Mr. McCLOY - And you would say the same thing of Commission Exhibit 399, the bullet 399 was fired from that rifle?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. McCLOY - And the fragment 567---
Mr. FRAZIER - 567, the one we have just finished.
Mr. McCLOY - Was likewise a portion of a bullet fired from that rifle?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. McCLOY - You have no doubt about any of those?
Mr. FRAZIER - None whatsoever.

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Merely stating your opinion that these facts are false is meaningless. They are all exhibits published in the WC Report.

[Martin Weidmann]

You have never admitted to anything and you are not admitting now. This posted nonsense has nothing to do with Officer Barnett's actions. Report? There was Barnett's testimony about his actions and movements post shots and his actions were completely contrary to your belief in Adams and Styles early departure from their office. The best part was you posted it and you did not realize that fact. Now it is to be seen if you admit you were wrong about the rifle.

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The rifle found on the 6th floor was fired from the 6th floor window and caused all the wounds.

There is so little actual physical evidence of the assassination.  There is a bullet, bullet fragments, shells, and a rifle. How could anyone know so little about them yet be constantly posting like you are an expert?

Frazier stating the bullet and bullet fragments, beyond any doubt, came from the rifle found on the 6th floor. The HSCA firearms experts agreed. I thought everyone knew this.

Mr. EISENBERG - Did you examine this? Is this a bullet fragment, Mr. Frazier?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir. This consists of a piece of the jacket portion of a bullet from the nose area and a piece of the lead core from under the jacket.
Mr. EISENBERG - How were you able to conclude it is part of the nose area?
Mr. FRAZIER - Because of the rifling marks which extend part way up the side, and then have the characteristic leading edge impressions and no longer continue along the bullet, and by the fact that the bullet has a rounded contour to it which has not been mutilated.
Mr. EISENBERG - Did you examine this bullet to determine whether it had been fired from Exhibit 139 to the exclusion of all other weapons?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. EISENBERG - What was your conclusion?
Mr. FRAZIER - This bullet fragment was fired in this rifle, 139.

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Mr. McCLOY - And you would say the same thing of Commission Exhibit 399, the bullet 399 was fired from that rifle?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. McCLOY - And the fragment 567---
Mr. FRAZIER - 567, the one we have just finished.
Mr. McCLOY - Was likewise a portion of a bullet fired from that rifle?
Mr. FRAZIER - Yes, sir.
Mr. McCLOY - You have no doubt about any of those?
Mr. FRAZIER - None whatsoever.

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Merely stating your opinion that these facts are false is meaningless. They are all exhibits published in the WC Report.

You have never admitted to anything and you are not admitting now. This posted nonsense has nothing to do with Officer Barnett's actions. Report? There was Barnett's testimony about his actions and movements post shots and his actions were completely contrary to your belief in Adams and Styles early departure from their office. The best part was you posted it and you did not realize that fact. Now it is to be seen if you admit you were wrong about the rifle.

Barnett's testimony about his actions did in no way prove that Adams and Styles did not leave the 4th floor immediately after the shots. I have no idea what you are babbling about.

Merely stating your opinion that these facts are false is meaningless. They are all exhibits published in the WC Report.

I'm not going to say they are false, although the inclusion of them in the WC report most certainly doesn't automatically make them facts. What you show me here is the opinion of an FBI expert who claims that in his opinion CE399 and bullet fragment CE 567 were shot through the same barrel.

Much can be said about the evidentiary problems associated with CE399 and CE567, but that's for another day.

You claimed that "numerous experts" identified the rifle found on the 6th floor as being the weapon that had been fired during the assassination

Numerous ballistics experts from both the FBI and HSCA inquiry identify the rifle found on the 6th floor as being the weapon that had been fired during the assassination to "the exclusion of all others".

To which I replied;

No ballistic expert from both the FBI and HSCA inquiry ever identified the rifle found on the 6th floor as being the weapon that had been fired during the assassination to "the exclusion of all others". But feel free to prove me wong, by providing one report, just one, in which that claim is made.

Now please point me to where in his testimony Frazier makes that claim.

[John Iacoletti]

The rifle found on the 6th floor was fired from the 6th floor window and caused all the wounds.

 

How do you know what rifle caused the wounds?  How do you know that either CE399 or CE567 went through Kennedy or Connally?

[Bill Chapman]

No need to prove ownership of any damn rifle
At the end of the day, 10th & Patton is the epicentre, the ground-zero if you will, of the entire assassination


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[Martin Weidmann]

No need to prove ownership of any damn rifle
At the end of the day, 10th & Patton is the epicentre, the ground-zero if you will, of the entire assassination

Oh boy, somebody forgot to put the garbage out. 

[John Iacoletti]

Numerous ballistics experts from both the FBI and HSCA inquiry identify the rifle found on the 6th floor as being the weapon that had been fired during the assassination to "the exclusion of all others".

Martin has already explained why this claim is 

LHO's palm print was found on the barrel of the rifle discovered on the 6th floor.

Correction:  a partial palmprint that was identified as coming from Oswald was found on an index card that arrived in Washington a week later.

LHO's prints were found on the bag discovered in the SN.

A "bag" that doesn't appear in the "place it was discovered" in any crime scene photographs, and nobody agrees on exactly where it was found, when it was found, who found it, or how it was folded.  Oh yeah, and there is no evidence that a rifle was ever inside it.

LHO's prints were on the boxes used to make the rifle rest.

LHO's job was literally taking books out of boxes.

LHO's PO Box was used as the delivery point for the rifle.

Evidence of "delivery"?

The alias used to purchase the rifle was on an indentity card in his possession when arrested.

The "identity card" that isn't mentioned in any interview or report prior to the Klein's order turning up?

LHO was known to possess this rifle

"Known" how?

and had already attempted to murder another individual earlier.

You mean with the steel-jacketed 30 caliber bullet the police found at the Walker scene?

LHO has no alibi during the assassination

Neither did at least 5 other people in the TSBD alone.  But Oswald mentioned seeing Norman and Jarman walk through the first floor, and lo and behold, they actually were there just a few minutes before the assassination.

and also told Postal Inspector Holmes he came down to the second floor after the assassination.

Right.  Holmes is a fount of specific information:

"But he went downstairs, and as he went out the front, it seems as though he did have a coke with him, or he stopped at the coke machine, or somebody else was trying to get a coke, but there was a coke involved.  He mentioned something about a coke."