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Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure

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John Iacoletti:

--- Quote from: Richard Smith on March 05, 2018, 09:19:44 PM ---You are not understanding the point.  No one is debating whether Mooney thought the reason for the elevator not to function was because the power was out.  That was his conclusion.

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And we should prefer Richard Smith's conclusion, because . . . ?

John Iacoletti:

--- Quote from: John Mytton on March 05, 2018, 10:21:30 PM ---So a few minutes after the assassination and presumably just a few seconds after the two ladies had left the elevator after arriving at their floor, Mooney's elevator picks this completely random exact point in time to suddenly stop working, geez what are the chances?

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The same as the chances of any power outage happening at any particular time.


--- Quote ---Conclusion.

1. For some unspecified reason the conspirators decided to turn off the elevator many minutes after the assassination.
2. Mooney didn't know how to operate the west elevator which had double gates.

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False dichotomy.

John Iacoletti:

--- Quote from: John Mytton on March 06, 2018, 08:04:43 AM ---Sure, it could have been any one of a thousand questions BELIN could have asked, but on the 22nd Roy Truly who is essentially the Texas School Book Depository Expert with decades of experience in that building....


.....confirms there were elevators operating just after the assassination.

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Is that somehow supposed to tell you anything about whether the elevators had power when Mooney and Adams tried them?

John Iacoletti:

--- Quote from: Richard Smith on March 06, 2018, 01:38:22 PM ---(e.g. Sawyer takes the passenger elevator up and down around 12:36 with no problem).

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How do you know this was around 12:36?

John Iacoletti:

--- Quote from: Richard Smith on March 06, 2018, 02:48:55 PM ---I don't follow what you are now babbling about.  Adams was not on the passenger elevator.  She pushed the button to call it but it apparently did not show up.  She did attribute this to a power cut but there is no indication why.  For example, how long did she wait?  It's not compelling or conclusive absent more details.  Yes, a typo.  I will change that for you if it makes you feel better.  In the rush to search the building, police were likely not to be concerned with elevator etiquette and may have left gates open etc.

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Did the passenger elevator have a gate?

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