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Offline Zeon Mason

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« Reply #4088 on: Yesterday at 04:36:11 PM »
As the infamous Donald Rumsfeld stated: “We don’t know what we don’t know” Therefore since we don’t know exactly where the 60% refined uranium is and we don’t know if there’s another underground lab, then 2 weeks ceasefire allows a much greater probability that some contingent of the old radical Iranian regime can construct an atomic bomb.

However since this version of Trump ( have they put a chip in his brain?) is contradicting himself by the hour, there is no telling what the end goal is.

2 facts that have me worried this Epic Fury was just another scheme to make a quick profit for  insider traders in both the oil market and the Industrial Military market:

A. Just a few months ago oil price was around 65$ /barrel and now it surged up to 115$/ barrel. That’s a HUGE win for the insider oil traders.

B. The 1.7 trillion additional funding now requested by Trump would be a HUGE win for Military Industrial Complex investors.

I hope I’m wrong and it is just  some kind of “Art of the Deal” posturing by Trump, but since I am 65 years old I have experienced the corruption of the Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden regimes, so IDK if I can believe  anything anymore.
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« Reply #4089 on: Yesterday at 04:48:53 PM »
As the infamous Donald Rumsfeld stated: “We don’t know what we don’t know” Therefore since we don’t know exactly where the 60% refined uranium is and we don’t know if there’s another underground lab, then 2 weeks ceasefire allows a much greater probability that some contingent of the old radical Iranian regime can construct an atomic bomb.

However since this version of Trump ( have they put a chip in his brain?) is contradicting himself by the hour, there is no telling what the end goal is.

2 facts that have me worried this Epic Fury was just another scheme to make a quick profit for  insider traders in both the oil market and the Industrial Military market:

A. Just a few months ago oil price was around 65$ /barrel and now it surged up to 115$/ barrel. That’s a HUGE win for the insider oil traders.

B. The 1.7 trillion additional funding now requested by Trump would be a HUGE win for Military Industrial Complex investors.

I hope I’m wrong and it is just  some kind of “Art of the Deal” posturing by Trump, but since I am 65 years old I have experienced the corruption of the Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden regimes, so IDK if I can believe  anything anymore.

I never cease to be amused by conspiracy theories with no supporting evidence. As long as it sounds plausible to the originator, no evidence is needed.

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« Reply #4090 on: Yesterday at 04:56:53 PM »
Actually, the libtards would have had a problem with anything Trump decided to do. That's how they are wired. If Trump is for it, they are against it. If Trump is against it, they are for it. They never want to stake out their own position on an issue until they see what Trump is going to do. I'll bet they are really disappointed our mission to rescue our downed airmen was so successful. I think they were counting on that turning into a disaster.

Exactly. I never knew until now that Capasse was an advocate of the bombing of Iran and he thinks Trump stopped short of finishing the job.

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« Reply #4091 on: Yesterday at 08:21:26 PM »
The Iranian leadership is even more cowardly than what could have been imagined. They were willing to sacrifice women and children on the infrastructures to save their pathetic regime. 

Obviously, you agree with them. Interesting that you personally would not have had any problem pulling the trigger and bombing the sites with the women and children present.

If Trump is going to cave to terrorist Hamas and Iranian regime using civilians as shields then he has capitulated like a wet paper bag.

The 10 points offer by whomever whatever group in Iran concedes NOTHING.

What happened to “Unconditional Surrender”?
What happened to hardcore Trump just yesterday?

2 week ceasefire because somebody in China told VP Vance to accept it or else?

Who the hell is running the USA now?
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« Reply #4092 on: Today at 12:11:20 AM »
If Trump is going to cave to terrorist Hamas and Iranian regime using civilians as shields then he has capitulated like a wet paper bag.

The 10 points offer by whomever whatever group in Iran concedes NOTHING.

What happened to “Unconditional Surrender”?
What happened to hardcore Trump just yesterday?

2 week ceasefire because somebody in China told VP Vance to accept it or else?

Who the hell is running the USA now?

Cave my ass. Trump hasn't agreed to anything. We still have the hammer and can drop it on them anytime we choose. We have paused the war to give the Iranians a chance to show they are sincere(which they probably aren't). The problem is that no one seems to be in charge in Iran. We seem to be talking to people who do not control the military. If they fail to live up to their promise to open the Strait of Hormuz, all bets are off. We will destroy their infrastructure and their ability to sell their oil. They are completely dependent on Kharg Island for their income. We could wipe it out tomorrow if we so choose. We can take it by force if we choose to go that route although that will likely result in casualties.

This ceasefire is Iran's last chance. If they balk, they will suffer brutal consequences. The people who are in power now are there only because we killed all of their predecessors and we will kiill them too. We will make Epic Fury seem like a warm up act.

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« Reply #4093 on: Today at 02:24:07 AM »

  This "human shields" stuff is pure propaganda. We almost never see footage of what is going on inside Iran, and then all the sudden, we see film footage of alleged "human shields". None of the news services post the source of this film footage, they just run it. It's propaganda and the News Media spreads it across the USA. This includes FOX News. The foreign influence/$$ inside the USA runs extremely deep.

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« Reply #4094 on: Today at 05:34:41 AM »
  This "human shields" stuff is pure propaganda. We almost never see footage of what is going on inside Iran, and then all the sudden, we see film footage of alleged "human shields". None of the news services post the source of this film footage, they just run it. It's propaganda and the News Media spreads it across the USA. This includes FOX News. The foreign influence/$$ inside the USA runs extremely deep.

Dear Royell,

Maybe the evil, evil "Deep State" / evil, evil "Administrative State" faked it, just like it / they did with all of the JFK assassination films, photos, and X-rays!!!

-- Tom