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Online Tom Graves

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« Reply #4040 on: Today at 12:46:29 AM »

Now the $64,000 question. Did you VOTE in the 2024 POTUS election? And, why didn't you take Bruce Springsteen with you?

"Trapped people"? Try those people living in So Cal, Chicago, Baltimore, Minneapolis, etc. Big Time Theft/$$ up the ying/yang, with kids getting routinely gunned down in the streets. They are labeled as "cities", but these are modern day "Plantations". People are stuck there in order to draw the Fed $$ into the state(s). Basically creating huge "slush funds". DOGE had it right Day 1.

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« Reply #4041 on: Today at 01:50:05 AM »
Looking at Trump in the most charitable light, he's just one of many "useful idiots" who have, since late 1961 (when J. Edgar Hoover accepted Kremlin-loyal triple agent GRU Lt. Col. Dmitry Polyakov as an informant at the Bureau's NYC field office), benefited the mafia formerly known as the KGB*.

It's a pity that you (and so many other Americans) are ignorant about the KGB*, and don't know that in 1959 the Kremlin, having realized that the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact couldn't defeat the U.S. and NATO militarily, developed the "Shelepin Plan," which aimed to get us to defeat ourselves by waging Sun Tzu-like disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations against us and our NATO allies.

It's a pity that you don't know that General Oleg Gribanov, not to be outdone by the FCD, set up an analog unit, Department 14, in his Second Chief Directorate and, after he had trapped Oleg Penkovsky "like a bear in its den" in Moscow in such a way that wouldn't reveal the traitor in the CIA or British Intelligence who had betrayed him in April 1961, sent the aforementioned Polyakov (who later "flipped" to the CIA in Rangoon) to the FBI's field office to "volunteer" to spy for it at the U.N., and two months later sent KGB* Major Aleksei Kulak (Hoover's shielded-from-CIA FEDORA) to do the same thing.

It’s a pity that you don’t know that, six months after KGB* Major Anatoly Golitsyn defected to the U.S. from Helsinki on 15 December 1961, Gribanov sent putative KGB* staff officer Yuri Nosenko to the CIA in Geneva to discredit what Golitsyn was telling James Angleton about KGB* penetrations of the CIA, the FBI, and the intelligence services of NATO countries.

It's a pity that you don't realize that this is just "the tip of the iceberg," that, for example, Oliver Stone's self-described mythological (“to counter the myth of the Warren Report” movie, "JFK," was the result of a 1967 KGB* active measures operation, and that your boy, Trump, is wittingly or unwittingly helping the KGB* bring the goals of the aforementioned Shelepin Plan -- getting us to defeat ourselves -- to fruition.

*Today's SVR and FSB

I know what the KGB was all about and how ruthless they were. What I can't understand is why you want to tie Trump to them.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #4042 on: Today at 01:51:05 AM »

  Now the $64,000 question. Did you VOTE in the 2024 POTUS election? And, why didn't you take Bruce Springsteen with you?

  "Trapped people"? Try those people living in So Cal, Chicago, Baltimore, Minneapolis, etc. Big Time Theft/$$ up the ying/yang, with kids getting routinely gunned down in the streets. They are labeled as "cities", but these are modern day "Plantations". People are stuck there in order to draw the Fed $$ into the state(s). Basically creating huge "slush funds". DOGE had it right Day 1.

Exactly the kind of pathetic ignorance I expected and why I left!

Online Tom Graves

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« Reply #4043 on: Today at 03:10:35 AM »
I know what the KGB was all about and how ruthless they were. What I can't understand is why you want to tie Trump to them.

Yeah, but you've never heard of the 1920's "New Economic Policy," "Trust," and “Syndikat-2,” the 1950's "WiN," the 1959 "Shelepin Plan," Gribanov's 1961 "Operation Boomerang," Dmitry Polyakov in late 1961, Aleksei Kulak in early 1962, Yuri Nosenko in 1962, Igor Kochnov in 1966, Vitaly Yurchenko in 1985, the 1967 anti-Clay Shaw / anti-CIA article in "Paese Sera," and the 1980's "Operation Infektion," etc, etc., etc., nor, more specifically, Trump's StB-informing first father-in-law, Trump's purchasing 200 TVs from KGB spotter Sam Kislin's "Joy-Lud Electronics" store in Manhattan in 1980, Russian Mafia money launderer David Bogatin's paying $6 mil in cash for five condos in Trump Tower in 1984, Ambassador to the U.N. Dubinin's and his daughter's unannounced flattering visit to Trump in Trump Tower in March of 1986, the Estee Lauder Dinner six months later, Trump's all-expenses-paid trip to Moscow in July of 1987, the anti-NATO full-page ad he took out and his run for President when he came back, Felix Sater and Blackrock, the thirteen Russian mafiosos in Trump Tower, Yanukovich-promoter Paul Manafort and GRU officer Konstantin Kilimnik and close-to-Putin Oleg Deripaska, Roger Stone and Harley Schlanger, "Cozy Bear," "Fancy Bear," the Putin's professional trolls at the Internet Research Agency, Cambridge Analytica, Deutsche Bank, et al. ad nauseam? Didn't think so.

I don't have to "tie" Trump to Russian Intelligence and the Russian Mafia, because he started doing that, himself, in 1977 when he married Ivana Marie Zelníčková from Gottwaldov (present day Zlín), Czechoslovakia, who had already had to get hard-to-get permission from the StB/KGB to emigrate to the West.
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« Reply #4044 on: Today at 03:23:13 AM »
Exactly the kind of pathetic ignorance I expected and why I left!

    Not Responsive. I asked a very simple question about voting, and I get the above. You brag about moving and then you still vote? You got TDS bad.

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« Reply #4045 on: Today at 04:16:46 AM »
Trump Derangement Syndrome 

Did you think of that all by your little zombified-by-KGB-disinfo self, Storing?
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« Reply #4046 on: Today at 04:19:31 AM »
Did you think of that all by your little zombified-by-KGB-disinfo self, Storing?

   Storing Derangement Syndrome (SDS) above. Get help.

Online Tom Graves

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« Reply #4047 on: Today at 04:27:49 AM »
Storing Derangement Syndrome (SDS) above. Get help.

"Storing's Derangement Syndrome" is probably synonymous with your [Xxxxxxxx] Debilitating Disease