U.S. Politics

[Joe Elliott]

I believe in the following three statements:

1. Billionaires make billions of dollars from immigrant labor each year. If they get $ 10,000 profit from each of the 10,000,000 immigrants, they make up to one hundred billion dollars each year from immigrant labor.

2. Billionaires will have a large amount of influence in the current Trump administration, and in state and local governments.

3. Billionaires will use this influence to prevent the bulk of the immigrants from being deported.

I wonder, which, if any of my three believes, are false?

If you want the immigrants kicked out, is someone like Trump the best man for the job? Shouldn't you guys look into getting legislatures and governors, etc., into office who are not funded by billionaires?

Just curious what people feel.

Once again, my beliefs are irrelevant but because I keep getting asked on this: I support the immigrants, believe the motive for kicking them out is based on racism and that people who want this done do not support basic American values. But the subject of my post is my three statements. Which of these are false?

[Royell Storing]

  You see what is happening to the economies of these "sanctuary" states? Calif likes to brag about having the 4th largest economy in the world. Problem is, it is admittedly BILLIONS of $$ in debt, and getting worse by the day. These illegal alien/cheap labor/sanctuary state economies were thriving on illegal alien labor. Now that Trump is throwing illegals out of the USA, these "sanctuary" states are now seeing LEGAL RESIDENTS receive a competitive/fair wage. And then there's the issue of these same states padding their total population with illegals. This inflated population gives them more Congressional Reps which then translates into Fed $$$ being voted into their states through Congress. Like Calif with their Fed Funded Billion $$ "Bullet Train To Nowhere". Biden letting Millions upon Millions into the country is a total scam. And remember the, "10% For The BIG GUY". These millions of illegal aliens being waved into the country by Biden is graft on a YUGE Scale.

[Benjamin Cole]

I believe in the following three statements:

1. Billionaires make billions of dollars from immigrant labor each year. If they get $ 10,000 profit from each of the 10,000,000 immigrants, they make up to one hundred billion dollars each year from immigrant labor.

2. Billionaires will have a large amount of influence in the current Trump administration, and in state and local governments.

3. Billionaires will use this influence to prevent the bulk of the immigrants from being deported.

I wonder, which, if any of my three believes, are false?

If you want the immigrants kicked out, is someone like Trump the best man for the job? Shouldn't you guys look into getting legislatures and governors, etc., into office who are not funded by billionaires?

Just curious what people feel.

Once again, my beliefs are irrelevant but because I keep getting asked on this: I support the immigrants, believe the motive for kicking them out is based on racism and that people who want this done do not support basic American values. But the subject of my post is my three statements. Which of these are false?

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JE-

You raise interesting questions.

Trump has sealed off the southern border, and also changed terms of trade with China.

Billionaires (and, say, upper 10% of US population, income-wealth wise) are advantaged by cheap imported labor, and also loved doing business with the commies in China, as long as they provided the cheap labor.

This makes Trump a true oddity.

Trump is not a pawn of the most powerful and richest in the US.

That is not to say as saying I am Trump supporter. He has a difficult character and personality, is mercurial even on important issues (Russia), is given to hubris, short-sightedness. Trump's commentary on social media platforms cannot be parodied, as it starts off as self-parody.

That said, Trump may have developed a workable Middle East peace plan, and is properly doing away with DEI excesses.

Trump is sui generis. 

[Tom Graves]

That is not to say that I am Trump supporter.

Yet you clearly are.

Just curious:

Did you move to Thailand for financial reasons, "to see the world," for the you-know-what action, for the cuisine, the humidity, the [fill in the blank], or because you were really, really fed up with "open borders" and the "woke"-and-all-too-intrusive federal government?

[Benjamin Cole]

Yet you clearly are.

Just curious:

Did you move to Thailand for financial reasons, "to see the world," for the you-know-what action, for the cuisine, the humidity, the [fill in the blank], or because you were really, really fed up with "open borders" and the "woke"-and-all-too-intrusive federal government?

TG--

If you like heat and humidity, upcountry Thailand is for you. Had I known...I would have moved to the Philippines high country, with a much better climate.

I left many years ago to start a farm and get married and have kids, and the internet allowed me to keep a financial-writing side-business.

Pre-internet, I might not have made the journey.

After a while, the food is...well, let's just say you eat every meal for the next 10 years in a Thai restaurant.

[Richard Smith]

I believe in the following three statements:

1. Billionaires make billions of dollars from immigrant labor each year. If they get $ 10,000 profit from each of the 10,000,000 immigrants, they make up to one hundred billion dollars each year from immigrant labor.

2. Billionaires will have a large amount of influence in the current Trump administration, and in state and local governments.

3. Billionaires will use this influence to prevent the bulk of the immigrants from being deported.

I wonder, which, if any of my three believes, are false?

If you want the immigrants kicked out, is someone like Trump the best man for the job? Shouldn't you guys look into getting legislatures and governors, etc., into office who are not funded by billionaires?

Just curious what people feel.

Once again, my beliefs are irrelevant but because I keep getting asked on this: I support the immigrants, believe the motive for kicking them out is based on racism and that people who want this done do not support basic American values. But the subject of my post is my three statements. Which of these are false?

Biden is the guy who opened the border in violation of federal law and the Constitution to let tens of millions of unknown people illegally into the country.  He created this mess.  This has nothing to do with racism or legal immigration.  Everyone supports legal immigration.  Trump is making every possible effort to correct the catastrophe created by Biden (or whoever was actually in charge).  He has effectively shut the border.  The leftists are fighting him tooth and nail to keep him from enforcing federal laws to deport illegal aliens.  It's very bizarre to spin a narrative in this context which suggests Trump is somehow not really trying to solve the problem.   

[Michael Capasse]

Biden is the guy who opened the border in violation of federal law and the Constitution to let tens of millions of unknown people illegally into the country.  He created this mess.  This has nothing to do with racism or legal immigration.  Everyone supports legal immigration.  Trump is making every possible effort to correct the catastrophe created by Biden (or whoever was actually in charge).  He has effectively shut the border.  The leftists are fighting him tooth and nail to keep him from enforcing federal laws to deport illegal aliens.  It's very bizarre to spin a narrative in this context which suggests Trump is somehow not really trying to solve the problem.

 

As of late 2025, approximately 71-72% of migrants in Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention have no criminal record.
This means that out of nearly 60,000 detainees, around 42,755 had no criminal convictions as of September 21, 2025.
Among those who have a record, most are for minor offenses, with a smaller percentage having serious criminal convictions.
Overall: About 71-72% of ICE detainees have no criminal conviction.

Breakdown:

• Approximately 42,755 out of 59,762 detainees had no criminal record as of September 21, 2025.
• A large portion of those with a criminal record have been convicted of minor offenses, such as traffic violations.
• Only a small percentage (around 8%) of current detainees have been convicted of violent crimes.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/trump-immigrant-detention#:~:text=The%20result%20has%20been%20an%20increase%20in,were%20minor%20offenses%20such%20as%20traffic%20violations.

https://tracreports.org/whatsnew/email.250926.html#:~:text=Immigration%20and%20Customs%20Enforcement%20held,as%20of%20September%2021%2C%202025.

https://www.mississippifreepress.org/among-trumps-ice-detainees-72-have-no-criminal-convictions-despite-vow-to-focus-on-worst-of-the-worst/#:~:text=Among%20Trump%27s%20ICE%20Detainees%2C%2072%25%20Have%20No,to%20Focus%20on%20%27Worst%20of%20the%20Worst%27.[/list][/list]

[Richard Smith]

As of late 2025, approximately 71-72% of migrants in Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention have no criminal record.
This means that out of nearly 60,000 detainees, around 42,755 had no criminal convictions as of September 21, 2025.
Among those who have a record, most are for minor offenses, with a smaller percentage having serious criminal convictions.
Overall: About 71-72% of ICE detainees have no criminal conviction.

Breakdown:

• Approximately 42,755 out of 59,762 detainees had no criminal record as of September 21, 2025.
• A large portion of those with a criminal record have been convicted of minor offenses, such as traffic violations.
• Only a small percentage (around 8%) of current detainees have been convicted of violent crimes.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/trump-immigrant-detention#:~:text=The%20result%20has%20been%20an%20increase%20in,were%20minor%20offenses%20such%20as%20traffic%20violations.

https://tracreports.org/whatsnew/email.250926.html#:~:text=Immigration%20and%20Customs%20Enforcement%20held,as%20of%20September%2021%2C%202025.

https://www.mississippifreepress.org/among-trumps-ice-detainees-72-have-no-criminal-convictions-despite-vow-to-focus-on-worst-of-the-worst/#:~:text=Among%20Trump%27s%20ICE%20Detainees%2C%2072%25%20Have%20No,to%20Focus%20on%20%27Worst%20of%20the%20Worst%27.[/list][/list]

That has no relevance to the discussion.  And even if there were only one illegal alien with a criminal record who Biden allowed into the country, that would be one too many.  Just ask the family of any American citizen who has been murdered or assaulted by such a person.  It is absolutely bizarre to put the interests of illegal aliens over those of Americans because you hate Trump.  Imagine suggesting that it is somehow a positive thing that only around a third of these tens of millions illegal aliens are criminals.  That means we only let in tens of thousands of violent criminals!  Nothing to see there.  Keep it up, though.  A recipe to lose every competitive election.